AndyRM
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Second picture, guy on the right is clearly saying "Oh no you din't bitch!"
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Second picture, guy on the right is clearly saying "Oh no you din't bitch!"
BoldonLad
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Even "professional soldiers" are someone's Father, Mother, Son, Daughter .....
Ian H
Guru
As are countless others whom we don't memorialise in that way.
Fab Foodie
Guru
Note, I didn’t say they should not be commemorated.
But to my mind there is a difference between those that choose to be soldiers and those that don’t. WW1 and WW2 were about survival of our nation (and the percentage of conscription high), subsequent conflicts were not. The numbers involved fortunately have been significantly lower a trend that will hopefully continue….
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swansonj
Regular
As I intimated earlier, I led this morning's Remembrance Service in our town and that included writing the Address. I put in lots of stuff about the horror of sending young men to try to kill other young men and to be killed themselves. But in my mind as I wrote it was the recognition that, increasingly, our servicepeople are people who have actually chosen that as a career, or at least have regarded the risk of that as an acceptable payoff for the things they want from a career.
qigong chimp
Settler of gobby hash.
Even there I think the narrative has been corrupted.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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True. So, we shouldn’t memorialize any?
it would appear the National Arbeoream (probably spelled that wrong), does memorialize others.
Fab Foodie
Guru
Countryfile watcher perchance?
Ian H
Guru
I believe I said "in that way"
BoldonLad
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Not exactly, but, I saw that part
AuroraSaab
Legendary Member
You could say the same for any peacetime occupation though. It's a choice to take that job. By the same logic, why do we clap for the NHS? Doctors chose to be doctors and are paid a decent whack.
We do it because we acknowledge that they often do difficult jobs in harsh circumstances. And with the armed forces it can be a job that might risk their lives or where they might be called on to defend us, or others elsewhere, at short notice. Even if we aren't currently at war, many of them will have seen stuff that will leave them with ptsd.
Let's be grateful that at the moment it is 'just a career choice' and we don't need them to risk their lives everyday.
We do it because we acknowledge that they often do difficult jobs in harsh circumstances. And with the armed forces it can be a job that might risk their lives or where they might be called on to defend us, or others elsewhere, at short notice. Even if we aren't currently at war, many of them will have seen stuff that will leave them with ptsd.
Let's be grateful that at the moment it is 'just a career choice' and we don't need them to risk their lives everyday.
mudsticks
Squire
"Lest we forget"
- how terrible war is, and how hard we should work to build peace, prevent more conflict.
But it rings a bit hollow from the second biggest arms exporter in the world.
Yes we should mourn for those lost in armed conflict.
And the innocent civilians caught in the crossfire too.
But not in a way that glorifies war, in any way shape or form.
Sadly though many still do that.
theclaud
Reading around the chip
Yes, we've all been five.
theclaud
Reading around the chip
We don't, anymore. We're back to insulting them with real-terms pay cuts.
mudsticks
Squire
Some of us moved on..
Others not so much.
Tbh I'm still a bit obsessed with ladybirds, bees and 'playing out'
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