Prince Andrew

[matticus]

Doesn’t forgiveness require acknowledgment, sorrow and regret by the wrongdoer, and not only about being caught?

Maybe in your religion!

 

[matticus]

The surprise comes from being the chosen person to escort the Queen down the aisle.

The Queen can forgive him without offering him outright promotion at centre stage. He’s so arrogant to put himself in that position.

Well, I'm sorry if she's upset you, but that is the arrangement that Queenie opted for.

 

[newfhouse]

Maybe in your religion!

I don’t have one. You brought Christianity to the discussion. I’m not an adherent but I do have a rudimentary knowledge.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Forgiveness is a major foundation stone in the Christian faith. (loving your family - parents and children - is also generally supported).

In the context of Christian faith, forgiveness can only come after contrition and I've seen no evidence of the latter from prince Andrew.

 

[BoldonLad]

Careful now, you’re coming close to saying that the queen may not be the utterly saintly figure we are supposed to worship. If that belief falls the whole ridiculous pantomime might collapse and then where would we be?

Is it 20p per day richer?

 

[newfhouse]

Is it 20p per day richer?

No. HTH.

 

[matticus]

I don’t have one. You brought Christianity to the discussion. I’m not an adherent but I do have a rudimentary knowledge.

Hang on: YOU brought up saints. And worship!

 

[matticus]

In the context of Christian faith, forgiveness can only come after contrition and I've seen no evidence of the latter from prince Andrew.

Two things:
- this is piffle. And
- it bears no relevance to @newfhouse criticising Queenie's "unSaintly" actions/choices. Except that it quite possibly supports her actions - was that your intention?

(And are we perhaps wandering down a 6th-form debating hole? The Yeahbut ... Yeahbut ... Yeahbut ... approach to debate? Hmmm? x )

 

[newfhouse]

it bears no relevance to @newfhouse criticising Queenie's "unSaintly" actions/choices.

That’s not quite what I said, but still.

 

[mjr]

That’s not quite what I said, but still.

If the crown fits...



... you might be about to get arrested for nicking it!

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Two things:
- this is piffle. And
- it bears no relevance to @newfhouse criticising Queenie's "unSaintly" actions/choices. Except that it quite possibly supports her actions - was that your intention?

Which part(s) do you think are piffle and why?

And - I was addressing your post, nobody else's.

 

[matticus]

Which part(s) do you think are piffle and why?

The bit about forgiveness. I've never heard any pre-requisites.

More importantly, I'm quite happy for Queenie to forgive HER son if SHE wants to.

 

[Fab Foodie]

It may simply be an elderly mother showing publicly her love for her son despite his failings.
Maybe something only a parent understands....
She has little time left to do this.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

The bit about forgiveness. I've never heard any pre-requisites.

Then you're arguing from a position of ignorance rather than knowledge.
If I haven't heard of something, I generally at least look it up before dismissing it as piffle.

 

[qigong chimp]

The quality of mercy is not strained.