Prince Andrew

[Rusty Nails]

Well I don't see that he needs to 'suffer' in public..
But at the same time having him prominently featuring at a public event also seems a bit tone deaf on the part of Queenie.
Of course I've no idea what his (alleged-but-rather- likely- given the 11mill payout) victims feel about it - but not massively impressed I'd guess..

Victims? I honestly never read about others.

Suffering in public is not necessarily the same as suffering publicly.

 

[Deleted member 28]

Many of you be watching the ceremony, if not why care?

 

[newfhouse]

Many of you be watching the ceremony, if not why care?

If the royal family are not there to be embody the best qualities of the nation, what are they for? You may as well have a ceremonial goat.

 

[Fab Foodie]

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If the royal family are not there to be embody the best qualities of the nation, what are they for? You may as well have a ceremonial goat.

I'm voting for the ceremonial goat, kid you not....

Let's face it, they are not exemplars for the nation, more a super-privileged reflection of it....

 

[BoldonLad]

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I'm voting for the ceremonial goat, kid you not....

Ewe and me both

 

[mudsticks]

If the royal family are not there to be embody the best qualities of the nation, what are they for? You may as well have a ceremonial goat.

Goats are honourable and productive creatures

And I've long time suggested that one be our nominal head of state..

Far less likely to misbehave, or set a poor example.
Friendly creatures with good appetites , so ideal for all those long lunches with visiting dignitaries.

Housing costs minimal

 

[Fab Foodie]

Goats are honourable and productive creatures

And I've long time suggested that one be our nominal head of state..

Far less likely to misbehave, or set a poor example.
Friendly creatures with good appetites , so ideal for all those long lunches with visiting dignitaries.

Housing costs minimal

And they make great curries!

But they don't half pong a bit whilst alive....

 

[mudsticks]

And they make great curries!

But they don't half pong a bit whilst alive....

How very dare you ...

Boy goats pong, a bit.

Lady goats do not pong ..

 

[Unkraut]

How can she forgive her son for (alleged) abuse of a third party??

Forgiveness is only appropriate between the actual parties to the offence. Something social media tend to forget.

Needless to say I haven't followed this closely, but there doesn't seem to have been any repentance on the part of prince Andrew. No unconditional admission of wrong-doing, avoiding the use of words such as 'inappropriate' - very common in cases of abuse where words like adultery would be more accurate. No accompanying desire to put things right.

Financial settlements obscure this all the more, as you don't know if this is a genuine attempt to compensate for acknowledged wrong-doing or a means of buying your way out of embarrassing court revelations.

No one knows the whole truth about this shameful episode other than Andrew, Guiffre and Maxwell and none of them have given any evidence in a court of law about it, or are likely to now...

A not unimportant point. There seems to be a lot of assuming as to what went on. As we don't know for certain this undercuts criticism of the Queen for allowing Andrew to help her into the service. That said, I must admit it seemed a strange thing to do in the circumstances.

Monarchist or not, I do feel sorry for the Queen so late in life. She has been badly let down in her life by Charles, Andrew and Harry.

 

[Xipe Totec]

Bloody royals, think they can brush off their sexual misdemeanours without consulting us. How arrogant!

FTFY.

 

[newfhouse]

She has been badly let down in her life by Charles, Andrew and Harry.

I blame the parents.

 

[Unkraut]

I blame the parents.

There may be many a true word spoken in jest ... my dad used to reckon that Prince Phillip was a lot of the trouble. The duke passed his own emotionally stunted upbringing in boarding schools on to his children.

 

[BoldonLad]

I blame the parents.

I trust, you don't have children

 

[newfhouse]

I trust, you don't have children

I do. I’m also a firm believer in the Philip Larkin view of parenthood. Well, maybe not the last line

 

[mudsticks]

I do. I’m also a firm believer in the Philip Larkin view of parenthood. Well, maybe not the last line

Of course how we're parented .

And how we parent, affects outcomes..

Theres innate personality in the mix there too, but the effects of parenting, good, bad indifferent or mixed is fairly plain to see .