Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[Pross]

As above, if that happens then Reform get a clear run at Labour at the next GE.

So you’re happy to see ‘your’ Party obliterated? Or are Reform now your Party?

 

[laurentian]

On the subject of switching allegiance, I've never understood how an MP can be elected for one party and then just decide "Actually, I think I'll join this other party instead, sod the constituents that voted for me". Should that trigger a "Bye"-election?

I'm sure, somewhere in the depths of my ailing memory that I remember that Farage made a very big noise about exactly this when one of his own defected to the Tories a while ago.

 

[CXRAndy]

The question is, what is the solution?
The answer is not Reform.

In your opinion

From surveys British people want reform

 

[AndyRM]

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/artic...-see-reform-uk-ahead-of-their-2025-conference

 

[Stevo 666]

So you’re happy to see ‘your’ Party obliterated? Or are Reform now your Party?

I'm just making an objective statement about the possible consequences - although note with my related point upthread that lefties should be careful what they wish for...

 

[Shortfall]

The question is, what is the solution?
The answer is not Reform.

I tend to agree. I don't know what the answer is though tbh. All I can say is that it will probably take a long time before viable new parties form out of the wreckage of Labour and the Conservatives.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Another Tory defection - Maria Caulfield.

Reform's loss is the Tories gain ;-P

 

[spen666]

the question is, if WHEN Starmer goes, who is going to replace him?

FTFY
The time scale may vary according to opinions and views, but Starmer will go sometime

 

[spen666]

The question is, what is the solution?
The answer is not Reform.

Your answer may not be Reform, but it is the answer for some people

 

[CXRAndy]

Payroll figures continue to fall since Rachel's budget last year.

Vacancies fall for 38 month straight.

Economists warn of 1980s job losses under crippling tax rises

 

[spen666]

Payroll figures continue to fall since Rachel's budget last year.

Vacancies fall for 38 month straight.

Pretty sure Labour have not been in power for 38 months.
This stat suggests the issue is a systematic economic issue rather than a party political one

 

[First Aspect]

Your answer may not be Reform, but it is the answer for some people

It will be the answer for those people precisely once, before.they realise Santa isn't real, and go in search of the tooth fairy. Corbyn just has to bide his time.

I swear there are a large.group of people who have voted leave, voted Tory to get Brexit done, voted Labour to get the Tories out and will move to Reform to get labour out. All in search of broadly the same silver bullet.

 

[CXRAndy]

Pretty sure Labour have not been in power for 38 months.
This stat suggests the issue is a systematic economic issue rather than a party political one

Yes, but her policies were to create growth, done nothing to stem this issue

 

[Pross]

Another Tory defection - Maria Caulfield.

Reform's loss is the Tories gain ;-P

How long until the Lib Dem’s become the formal opposition?

 

[Pblakeney]

Your answer may not be Reform, but it is the answer for some people

Those people are going to be as disappointed as the rest of us should it come to pass.