All uphill
Senior Member
I'm sat here trying to imagine how centrist views could be presented in a way that would win general election, and I'm failing.
The need to summarise in three words, or even 280 doesn't lend itself to balance.
Reform, and the death of the Tory Party
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I'm sat here trying to imagine how centrist views could be presented in a way that would win general election, and I'm failing.
The need to summarise in three words, or even 280 doesn't lend itself to balance.
secretsqirrel
Active Member
There is a moderate centrist hole opening up, a smart savvy party just step into it. Problem is the political environment is toxic. Who would want the job.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
One of the historical political problems in this country over the past 100 years has been the almost ingrained belief that only Labour or the Tories can gain power. The recent apparent downturn in perception of these parties, and the mystique about their right to govern vanishing has led to an opportunity (which is rapidly being grasped by the odious Farage) to change that. Obviously the LibDems and Greens could benefit but they both suffer from a lack of recognisable leadership skills.
In the past I remember the Social Democrats offered possibilities but suffered because of the national fixation with the name "Labour", even though they had some very sound, big name politicians in their breakaway party. Perhaps there is a new opportunity for a reset of UK politics away from the old two party duopoly.
Let Corbyn have his left wing party, Farage and the sinking ship rat Tories have the right, and let a new party that is a true social democratic movement have its chance, as well as the LibDems, Greens and Nats.
I live in hope but not too much optimism because of the way the UK population has been sleepwalking to the present situation for too long.
Stevo 666
Veteran
Tbh I think the political centre of gravity has moved away from the centre.
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briantrumpet
Guru
As similes go, this is rather poetic.
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briantrumpet
Guru
As I've mentioned elsewhere, "All the other options are shitter" is probably true, but not a vote winner (even if it should be).
Ian H
Squire
The poor will continue to get poorer; public services will continue to deliver vast earnings for their owners but decreasing actual service; the climate emergency will still be paid scant attention (though the right noises will be made). The very rich will get richer.
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briantrumpet
Guru
Yes. That's definitely a vote winner. Well, it seems to have worked in the past several times.
Pblakeney
Über Member
Oi! I am Eeyore. 😉
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briantrumpet
Guru
Pblakeney
Über Member
They were too positive. 😉
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briantrumpet
Guru
I guess it hadn't evolved to this point for May-Johnson, Johnson-Truss, or Truss-Sunak, otherwise Rees-Mogg world have been on the case.
secretsqirrel
Active Member
Wish he would evolve…
Ian H
Squire
You've no idea what he might 'evolve' into. Remember that evolution is not the same as improvement.
