Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

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BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Would still be quite onerous if another party demanded it was checked to ensure fairness.
If you were going to have a self declared 'Do you have the right to vote?' question on your union joining form, you should also perhaps have a 'Do you consent to the union using your subs to support the political party of their choice?' question.

I believe it is, or at least was, possible to opt out of the Political Levey.

Edit: oops, I see Mr Celine has more uptodate and complete info.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Looks like the opt in/out it was introduced long after I'd joined my various unions. Thanks for the clarification. Presumably the recipients of the funds, eg which parties or particular MPs, are decided by committee.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
Looks like the opt in/out it was introduced long after I'd joined my various unions. Thanks for the clarification. Presumably the recipients of the funds, eg which parties or particular MPs, are decided by committee.

It would appear the opt-in / opt-out has varied over time, from 1913 until now, with most recent change being in 2016. Un-surprisingly, perhaps, it was typically Conservative Governments which adopted opt-out as the default, and, Labour Governments who opted for opt-in as the default.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
When the far right tries to weaponise just being nice to other humans...

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Stevo 666

Veteran
Most of the other political parties seem to have managed it.

I don't know whether other parties have, maybe you can clarify on what basis you say that.

But let me rephrase the question: you see an issue/have a concern here. How would you deal with it? If certain parties are not doing what you want in this area, what sort of rule changes would you implement to deal with it if you were in charge?
 

icowden

Pharaoh
I don't know whether other parties have, maybe you can clarify on what basis you say that.

But let me rephrase the question: you see an issue/have a concern here. How would you deal with it? If certain parties are not doing what you want in this area, what sort of rule changes would you implement to deal with it if you were in charge?

Ban party donations from companies. Anyone with an NI number and who is up to date with their taxes can donate say up to £5k per year max.

Or just ban political party donations all together.
 

Psamathe

Guru
Ban party donations from companies.
I agree, particlarly as companies don't get a vote in electing our politicians.

Anyone with an NI number and who is up to date with their taxes can donate say up to £5k per year max.
Add who is a UK resident. You can be resident overseas and still have an NI number and still be up-to-date with your (UK) taxes.

The parties don't need the vast sums they seem to be thinking they need. Most elections are in a locality to elect representatives for the constituency (local). Yet Party leaders seem to regard themselves as rock stars needing a tour bus, appearances before large crowds, support teams to control the agenda all of which has little to do with who a constituency selects to represent their locality.

A Party can set Party policy and their local constituency candidate can present that policy to the constituents - don't need a campaign buss for a Party leader to attend with lots of razzmatazz and at significant cost. Might boost the egos of those party leaders ("Look at how important I am ...") but serves little purpose. Maybe in part a product as party leaders have taken ever more power and treated our local representatives as lobby fodder to do the bidding of the party leader rather than their job of representing their constituents.
 

All uphill

Slow and steady
When the far right tries to weaponise just being nice to other humans...

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FFS.

This country is built on successive waves of immigration!
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
I wonder why Mrs Tice married the multimillionnaire tax-avoiding-on-millions-of-pounds-profit Mr Tice, and retweeted this. Such patriots, anyway.

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