Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[Beebo]

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Surely no one wants to return to the stinky pubs and clubs of our youth. It won’t win votes from anyone who doesn’t smoke and the population of smokers is around 10%.

I would love to know the ratio of Reform voters who smoke. I expect it would be quite higher than 10% average.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Have we had former Justice Minister and Tory MP Crispin Blunt? Blunt says he should not have been charged; the poor man.

His reason, in his 30 minute speech to the judge, seems to have been that you shouldn't be charged for doing things that you don't think should be illegal. He hasn't aged well.
I would have said he looks about 80 not 65. Stress maybe.

 

[C R]

His reason, in his 30 minute speech to the judge, seems to have been that you shouldn't be charged for doing things that you don't think should be illegal. He hasn't aged well.
I would have said he looks about 80 not 65. Stress maybe.

I don't suppose a meth habit will be good for his health.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Surely no one wants to return to the stinky pubs and clubs of our youth. It won’t win votes from anyone who doesn’t smoke and the population of smokers is around 10%.

If they overturned it I can't even see most pubs and restaurants going back to it. Most pubs serve food now, if only to keep afloat, and even smokers aren't that keen on a return to smoking during meals. It would finish off lots of small places. I just wouldn't go to a bar or restaurant that allowed smoking inside.

I don't suppose a meth habit will be good for his health.

He doesn't look at all well.

 

[BoldonLad]

Rumour is the next policy will be to bring back guiness for pregnant women and introduce free lard on toast for all Primary school children.

Beef dripping on toast, and, to fry the chips, you can’t get “real” chips these days. 😂

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Surely no one wants to return to the stinky pubs and clubs of our youth. It won’t win votes from anyone who doesn’t smoke and the population of smokers is around 10%.

I would love to know the ratio of Reform voters who smoke. I expect it would be quite higher than 10% average.

My understanding was he's against the generational thing, ie people born after 2009 will never be allowed to legally by fags.
Google tells me 9.1% of people still smoke. I'm surprised it's that high, but don't think it'll be a critical mass for a return to smoking indoors.

 

[briantrumpet]

Surely no one wants to return to the stinky pubs and clubs of our youth. It won’t win votes from anyone who doesn’t smoke and the population of smokers is around 10%.

I would love to know the ratio of Reform voters who smoke. I expect it would be quite higher than 10% average.

I suspect that it's a combination of his social media exposure plus the instinct to do anything to wind up the libs.

 

[UglyWithaSidePart]

I say allow pubs to decide on allowing smoking or not in their own pubs. They'd have to take into account any future health problems for their staff and potentially (and likely) far fewer food sales and fewer customers at all.
This might put this stupid debate to bed forever, what is it about reformers, smoking and bloody potholes! They're fecking obsessed!

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Beef dripping on toast, and, to fry the chips, you can’t get “real” chips these days. 😂

The thing is, compared to overly pocessed crap, that is probably far healthier (in moderation). It's striking, when you look at pics of people from the 1950's/60's/70's how slim most are. My old man had a 26" waist in his 20's.

 

[briantrumpet]

The thing is, compared to overly pocessed crap, that is probably far healthier (in moderation). It's striking, when you look at pics of people from the 1950's/60's/70's how slim most are. My old man had a 26" waist in his 20's.

FWIW, lard is less unhealthy than lard, apparently, according to unbiased research by LCMA (the Lardy Cake Manufacturers' Association).

Also, FWIW, remembering my childhood diet, a 'tight household budget' did mean we were effectively rationed on things like biscuits (especially chocolate ones - just one a day!), and Mum's cooking was definitely of the 'make a little go a long way' variety, having lived through WW2 and rationing.

 

[Beebo]

The thing is, compared to overly pocessed crap, that is probably far healthier (in moderation). It's striking, when you look at pics of people from the 1950's/60's/70's how slim most are. My old man had a 26" waist in his 20's.

This is true, but average height has also increased by 1 inch since 1950s.

 

[Pblakeney]

FWIW, lard is less unhealthy than lard, apparently, according to unbiased research by LCMA (the Lardy Cake Manufacturers' Association).

Also, FWIW, remembering my childhood diet, a 'tight household budget' did mean we were effectively rationed on things like biscuits (especially chocolate ones - just one a day!), and Mum's cooking was definitely of the 'make a little go a long way' variety, having lived through WW2 and rationing.

This is true. I was looking at old Christmas photos recently. What struck me (apart from everyone being skinny) was that the main course would be a starter these days. Or a main course in one of those fancy-dancy-go-for-a-chippy-after restaurants. 😉

 

[BoldonLad]

The thing is, compared to overly pocessed crap, that is probably far healthier (in moderation). It's striking, when you look at pics of people from the 1950's/60's/70's how slim most are. My old man had a 26" waist in his 20's.

Yes. Without starting a “Hovis advert” discussion, in primary school (1952-59), I recall only one “chubby” pupil, and she was not by any means obese. We had far fewer “sweets” (1/4lb of toffee, once a week, if Father had a couple of half shifts in). We were also MUCH more physically active (even none sporty me).

 

[briantrumpet]

Yes. Without starting a “Hovis advert” discussion, in primary school (1952-59), I recall only one “chubby” pupil, and she was not by any means obese. We had far fewer “sweets” (1/4lb of toffee, once a week, if Father had a couple of half shifts in). We were also MUCH more physically active (even none sporty me).

Worth remembering that food accounted for about 25% of household expenditure then, now I think it's about 10%.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

FWIW, lard is less unhealthy than lard, apparently, according to unbiased research by LCMA (the Lardy Cake Manufacturers' Association).

Also, FWIW, remembering my childhood diet, a 'tight household budget' did mean we were effectively rationed on things like biscuits (especially chocolate ones - just one a day!), and Mum's cooking was definitely of the 'make a little go a long way' variety, having lived through WW2 and rationing.

Yes, I guess it is a combination of fresh food, smaller portions and a lack of snacking, including far less sugar.