Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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It's almost like the media don't want to push him as he is saying what they want people to hear.

Liberal Democrats with a good advert for once.

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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
When even Julia Hartley-Brewer is ripping into Farage...

 

Pross

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This is good from Sally Nugent. She doesn't give up. God, he's an obnoxious cunt. Watch till the end.

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He also seems to be overlooking that two MPs were murdered when he claims he's been the most attacked politician.

I'm hoping there's starting to be a taste of blood in the water and that it's going to start a bit of pack mentality as often happens (although normally with Lefties, particularly female MPs). With the hunting of Starmer and, therefore, Reeves by proxy reaching a successful end there is now scope for new prey.
 

C R

Squire
I'm hoping there's starting to be a taste of blood in the water and that it's going to start a bit of pack mentality as often happens (although normally with Lefties, particularly female MPs). With the hunting of Starmer and, therefore, Reeves by proxy reaching a successful end there is now scope for new prey.

But as it is customary with this lot, Farage will play the victim of the woke lefty press, and his followers will lap it up.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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I'm hoping there's starting to be a taste of blood in the water and that it's going to start a bit of pack mentality as often happens (although normally with Lefties, particularly female MPs). With the hunting of Starmer and, therefore, Reeves by proxy reaching a successful end there is now scope for new prey.

I thought she handled it well when he whataboutered re her salary – "It's on the public record" she retorted, before swinging straight back to him. It would be good if other journos saw how Nugent has immediately raised her profile, though one wonders if her BBC bosses will tell her off for being so mean to someone who they don't like being mean to.
 
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It is clever the way they've persuaded poor people to vote for someone who would make them even poorer, especially as Farage is largely responsible for making the UK poorer through Brexit.

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First Aspect

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To put the selection of thresholds into context, the national full time minimum wage is now £25k. So they e chosen the bottom 6% plus about the same again in pensioners, and the top 25%.
 

Beebo

Legendary Member
It is clever the way they've persuaded poor people to vote for someone who would make them even poorer, especially as Farage is largely responsible for making the UK poorer through Brexit.

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And those households will be reliant on benefits, which Reform will cut.

But this cohort are the ones who feel most under pressure by immigration stealing their jobs and taking their benefits.
 
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BoldonLad

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To put the selection of thresholds into context, the national full time minimum wage is now £25k. So they e chosen the bottom 6% plus about the same again in pensioners, and the top 25%.

Yes, so, a household of two minimum wage earners would not show in those numbers.

Not sure that Household income of £70k comprises the top 25%, even here in the impoverished north, I would struggle to believe that.
 

Pblakeney

Shaman
And those households will be reliant on benefits, which Reform will cut.

But this cohort are the ones who feel most under pressure by immigration stealing their jobs and taking their benefits.

I maintain that anyone blaming an immigrant for stealing their low paid job should try looking in the mirror and asking how that happened.
If it is due to unscrupulous employers profiteering then blame them.
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
Yes, so, a household of two minimum wage earners would not show in those numbers.

Not sure that Household income of £70k comprises the top 25%, even here in the impoverished north, I would struggle to believe that.
I didn't check the source material Gemini used, but it did include the ONS. I was a bit surprised myself, but here in the even more impoverished south west, it wouldn't be far off.

The below min wage will be unemployed and or part time plus universal credit or other welfare. I did "ask" for gross income including benefits in a few different ways, but one should really go to the actual data to verify things like this.

Whichever way you look at it, it seems to me that they had to slice somewhat carefully to generate a story.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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I didn't check the source material Gemini used, but it did include the ONS. I was a bit surprised myself, but here in the even more impoverished south west, it wouldn't be far off.

The below min wage will be unemployed and or part time plus universal credit or other welfare. I did "ask" for gross income including benefits in a few different ways, but one should really go to the actual data to verify things like this.

Whichever way you look at it, it seems to me that they had to slice somewhat carefully to generate a story.

Quite
 
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