Pblakeney
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Displaying the depth of his political nouse.
Reform, and the death of the Tory Party
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Displaying the depth of his political nouse.
secretsqirrel
spiteful class warrior
Dear sweet Henry of the Beeb……
The good folks of Clacton are a higher political authority now. Makerfield says “hold my pint”.
Henry Zeffman
Chief political correspondent
It is worth stating that if Nigel Farage were to win this Clacton by-election, investigations into him will resume. That is what Parliament's rules are.
So Farage isn't forcing this by-election in order to stop that investigation ever happening, he is doing it in order to appeal to a higher political authority than the House of Commons standards commissioner.
He is arguing: "I derive my mandate from the voters of Clacton."
It is a bold political gambit, and it could well determine the question of who has the opportunity to become Britain's prime minister at the next general election.
The good folks of Clacton are a higher political authority now. Makerfield says “hold my pint”.
Chief political correspondent
It is worth stating that if Nigel Farage were to win this Clacton by-election, investigations into him will resume. That is what Parliament's rules are.
So Farage isn't forcing this by-election in order to stop that investigation ever happening, he is doing it in order to appeal to a higher political authority than the House of Commons standards commissioner.
He is arguing: "I derive my mandate from the voters of Clacton."
It is a bold political gambit, and it could well determine the question of who has the opportunity to become Britain's prime minister at the next general election.
Beebo
Legendary Member
But the only sanction is another by election. And if he’s already won one, he won’t care.
Stevo 666
Guru
Let's see something to back up that assertion.
Pross
Veteran
Well other voters aren't voting for Reform. I think the term lawyers use is res ipsa loquitur.
AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
What if he puts his name forward but isn't selected? Unlikely, but gives the possibility of no more investigations and Reform can say 'At this time we think Mr/Ms Whoever is a better candidate'. I don't see what Farage will gain from all this, unless he actually hopes to be unseated. Parliamentary investigations aren't affected by the size of your majority or the public endorsement of winning a by election, and if his majority is reduced or he loses it's a bit embarrassing. Also, what a waste of public money.
Pross
Veteran
Not to mention the Commisioner can resume their investigation even if he doesn't get re-elected if he decides it proportionate. It stinks of panic which to me suggests there's more there than what has come out so far.
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midlandsgrimpeur
Prostrate Member
I genuinely don't understand your point. Reform voters want what Reform is offering, Labour voters want what Labour is offering etc. There is no such thing as "voters" as we all vote for a party. Therefore Reform is catering to Reform voters, just as Labour is catering to Labour voters
Stevo 666
Guru
Still waiting....
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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So, where is their (Reform's) vote coming from? Is it that thousands of people have never voted previously and have now started to vote, and, are voting Reform?
Stevo 666
Guru
I think we've had this discussion before related to areas which never had much of a Tory vote. Memories are short on here.
secretsqirrel
spiteful class warrior
Reform are offering to pay for the by-election, since Ed Davy called them out.
Is it even allowed?
I wonder if they’ve asked the Reform members yet.
Is it even allowed?
I wonder if they’ve asked the Reform members yet.
Pross
Veteran
Yes, but they've attracted what they are going to attract and if anyone wants Reform policies that's where they'll go.
secretsqirrel
spiteful class warrior
Rupert Lowe doesn’t think a by-election during a busy holiday season is going to go down well.
This is the thing, you want to be a disruptor, get prepared to be disrupted by the next disrupter.
This is the thing, you want to be a disruptor, get prepared to be disrupted by the next disrupter.
