Reform

[ebikeerwidnes]

The billionaires are demanding more trickle up. Minimum wage to be slashed. Imagine the income from a single car parking space being worth more per hour than the labour of a person's 18 year old grandchild. It's where the country is heading.

Employers' contributions to NI would be cut. This being test marketed as ''helping small business''. Tice says they are ''business men'' as if that is a guarantee for the working people of the UK that they are the party for them. But I guess as long as they continue to say that they'll deport migrant people older people will continue to be the group most likely to support them.

How does the argument from Farage and Tice, that cutting wages and salaries helps people lower their tax bill help people or the treasury? They intend to funnel more money upwards, not sustain spending in essential services.

I suspect that my brother-in-law support farage and tice and that lot

if he says anything I will mention that they will screw up the wages of his son and daughter

he won't understand - he is exactly the sort of intellect farage aims at - but that sort of direct effect might stop him actually voting for these grifters

 

[BoldonLad]

The billionaires are demanding more trickle up. Minimum wage to be slashed. Imagine the income from a single car parking space being worth more per hour than the labour of a person's 18 year old grandchild. It's where the country is heading.

Employers' contributions to NI would be cut. This being test marketed as ''helping small business''. Tice says they are ''business men'' as if that is a guarantee for the working people of the UK that they are the party for them. But I guess as long as they continue to say that they'll deport migrant people older people will continue to be the group most likely to support them.

How does the argument from Farage and Tice, that cutting wages and salaries helps people lower their tax bill help people or the treasury? They intend to funnel more money upwards, not sustain spending in essential services.

Chill.

I will not be voting Reform in a GE.

Simply pointing out that so far, Revves has hardly been a paragon of virtue wrt to helping the lower paid.

According to this guy, it is all going to go belly up anyway
View: https://youtu.be/Ff4gvI1fr_M?si=dm6pqaiLZUc8c-fG

 

[monkers]

Chill.

I will not be voting Reform in a GE.

Simply pointing out that so far, Revves has hardly been a paragon of virtue wrt to helping the lower paid.

According to this guy, it is all going to go belly up anyway
View: https://youtu.be/Ff4gvI1fr_M?si=dm6pqaiLZUc8c-fG

I'm perfectly chilled thanks. Agree with you on Reeves, but to Labour's credit up to this point (carefully noting that it's budget day tomorrow) minimum wage and pensions have not come under attack.

The point the kind of stuck with me, is Tice saying that paying people less is doing them a favour as then they'll pay less tax - as if a lower income for the worker, and less tax to the treasury are both good outcomes of the policy.

It's a wrecking policy sold as something other than it is.

 

[C R]

It's a wrecking policy sold as something other than it is.

Tell us something we didn't know about this shower of shïte.

 

[BoldonLad]

I'm perfectly chilled thanks. Agree with you on Reeves, but to Labour's credit up to this point (carefully noting that it's budget day tomorrow) minimum wage and pensions have not come under attack.

The point the kind of stuck with me, is Tice saying that paying people less is doing them a favour as then they'll pay less tax - as if a lower income for the worker, and less tax to the treasury are both good outcomes of the policy.

It's a wrecking policy sold as something other than it is.

Tomorrow is 5th November 2025, isn't budget day 26th November 2025?

 

[monkers]

Tomorrow is 5th November 2025, isn't budget day 26th November 2025?

Intended a pun, it didn't land well as it was weak. Budget and bonfire - never mind.

 

[C R]

I hope all the legitimate concerns people are furious at the increase in racist abuse of NHS staff and will be demonstrating about how their protest were not against all brown people

https://www.theguardian.com/society...sm-akin-to-the-70s-and-80s-says-wes-streeting

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I hope all the legitimate concerns people are furious at the increase in racist abuse of NHS staff and will be demonstrating about how their protest were not against all brown people

https://www.theguardian.com/society...sm-akin-to-the-70s-and-80s-says-wes-streeting

so, apparently, people in the public eye shouting about how all these brown people coming over here
working illegally while being put up at the public expense
and raping all "our" women
and shoplifting from the corner shops
and running all the corner shops and barbers

creates a situation where the "less educated" start blaming all the brown people for everything

wow - who would have thunk

as always it takes a second for a rumour to fly around the world
someone else trying to show that it is wrong using facts and evidence takes hours or days
AND most of the people who listen to the rumour don't listen to the facts anyway

 

[BoldonLad]

so, apparently, people in the public eye shouting about how all these brown people coming over here
working illegally while being put up at the public expense
and raping all "our" women
and shoplifting from the corner shops
and running all the corner shops and barbers

creates a situation where the "less educated" start blaming all the brown people for everything

wow - who would have thunk

as always it takes a second for a rumour to fly around the world
someone else trying to show that it is wrong using facts and evidence takes hours or days
AND most of the people who listen to the rumour don't listen to the facts anyway

Perhaps we should limit the right to vote, say, to those with a University Honors Degree?

 

[monkers]

Perhaps we should limit the right to vote, say, to those with a University Honors Degree?

Do you mean from either of the two universities? Should anything less than Summa Cum Laude be acceptable? Asking on behalf of Sir Humphrey Appleby.

 

[Ian H]

Do you mean from either of the two universities? Should anything less than Summa Cum Laude be acceptable? Asking on behalf of Sir Humphrey Appleby.

Sumer is icumen in
Lhude sing cuccu...

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Do you mean from either of the two universities? Should anything less than Summa Cum Laude be acceptable? Asking on behalf of Sir Humphrey Appleby.

Elitist nonsense. 'Common sense' is all that's needed.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Elitist nonsense. 'Common sense' is all that's needed.

And no bloody ‘honors’ degrees. This isn’t the US………yet.

 

[BoldonLad]

And no bloody ‘honors’ degrees. This isn’t the US………yet.

oops, does it show that I dont qualify to vote, in the brave new world 😂

 

[monkers]

Elitist nonsense. 'Common sense' is all that's needed.

That was what my post was saying, and I think IanH's for that matter.