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Mr Celine
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There's been an 'asymmetric school week' in many Scottish local authorities for years. My local schools finish at 1:30 on Fridays.
So in this neck of the woods it's easy for teachers to get a Friday afternoon bike ride. The rest of us can't clock off early because all the part-timers with kids don't work Friday afternoons.
Julia9054
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A quick google tells me that average non boarding fees are £15,655.
But a few sacrifices should be all it takes. If a parent can’t be bothered making those sacrifices then they obviously don’t care about their kids.
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icowden
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The average number of children per family is 1.7. If you have one child and both parents work, then yes, it's manageable with sacrifices. For two kids it starts getting expensive, and those fees don't include school trips, instrument lessons (for musicians), uniform, sports gear (for sporty children) and other sundry fees that get added on. Both of mine have scholarships which helps. By mortgaging and paying for senior in a single payment, an extra discount is also given.
The point is that there are two tiers of children going to private school and investment needs to be made in state education to ensure that all children have a fair chance of reaching their potential. They don't at the moment. It's as simple as that. My sister deeply regrets not sending her son to private school. He is autistic and has not achieved anywhere near what he could have done had he been in a supportive environment. Imposing VAT doesn't affect the wealthy who send their kids to private school. It just doesn't make a difference to them.
qigong chimp
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Who knew gaming the education system could be so interesting? And rewarding.
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That's what happens when you actually care about your kids ay it?
C R
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I once saw a comment from someone saying that they didn't want state schools to improve, because then what would be the point of her sending her daughter to private school to have an advantage
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icowden
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No. Many parents send their kids to private school because they don't want them to be disadvantaged by schools that cannot or will not meet their needs.
multitool
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Yes, which means you want them to have an advantage over your Type B children who attend state school.
At the end of the day it amounts to the same thing. The 6% offspring of the wealthy gaining an advantage over the 94%.
I don't think this should have a tax break. Tax breaks for the wealthy entrench inequality even further.
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icowden
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No. I want them to have equality with other students who do not have acute anxiety, dyslexia, type 1 diabetes, autism, anorexia and other eating disorders, socialisation problems etc.
Again. The wealthy couldn't give a shoot about whether or not they pay VAT. The not-wealthy but willing to make sacrifices so that their children can attend a setting where they can achieve their potential or what would be "normal" if they didn't have additional needs are the ones who will suffer. So until proper funding can be put in place, smaller schools built and smaller settings provided this is the *only* way that some children will get through school.
My daughter's primary was happy for her to be struggling daily to complete homework because her scores were low-middle of the class. That was all that counted. Not that she was being disadvantaged by struggling to write, struggling to order her homework etc. That didn't matter - because scores. She isn't low middle and did well at her GCSEs - because she had that support.
multitool
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It's weird how you grant yourself this exceptionalism.
You, yourself, say that your daughter got better GCSE grades than if she had attended a state school.
Not sure how this differs from any parent lucky to be wealthy enough to afford private education.
It's fine.
But pay your tax like the rest of us do.
You, yourself, say that your daughter got better GCSE grades than if she had attended a state school.
Not sure how this differs from any parent lucky to be wealthy enough to afford private education.
It's fine.
But pay your tax like the rest of us do.
Bazzer
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You presumably are also against giving tax breaks to those fortunate to be wealthy enough to have stocks and shares ISAs?
multitool
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Here comes the whataboutery....