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CXRAndy

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Today I'm being trivially annoyed by you lot and your disregard for the law.

You're forgetting the pampering aspect, that women and girls get compared to using a barbers
 

PurplePenguin

Active Member
Does it have a source (other than Reddit) for that case example as I haven't been able to find it. These things will generally continue to be accepted unless someone feels strongly enough to challenge it legally but despite all the articles online with people complaining no-one has taken up the baton to mount that legal challenge. If they do I suspect the inevitable consequence would be that the cost for men / boys would be increased at hairdressers as woman are their main clientelle whereas barbers would end up being forced to cut the hair of the relatively small number of women that would be happy to have their hait cut in a barber shop (there is apparently a unisex barber chain that set up having spotted this gap in the market).

To go all Rick Chasey, I am surprised all the pensioner discounts have escaped legal challenge when they are all millionaires. Justifying that someone costs less when taking up a seat in a cinema / theatre etc. because they are older feels harder to justify than hair cuts where 'average' length and complexity could be argued.

Not much would change overall except prices would reference hair length and services instead.
 
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First Aspect

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Here is a barber's trade organisation explaining it. There are no exemptions to the equality act. Even if there is pampering involved.

https://www.nhbf.co.uk/news-and-blogs/blog/cut-out-inequality-at-your-barbershop/

I am sure you local hairdresser, let's call them "Base Rate Cuts", probably don't follow best practice, but the law still doesn't say what you think it says.

Gendered pricing appears to be legal if it can be justified. The law says there are circumstances in which it can, such as time taken to provide a service (meaning in effect a different service). However If a woman with my hairstyle goes to a barber and asks for a trim and gets charged double what they charge me, that's illegal because it's the same service. As is turning her away entirely.

I do not rate the chances of Base Rate Cuts complying with the nuances, so by all means go on a crusade. I would start by giving your daughter a boy's haircut, with her permission of course, and then creating a scene about Base Rates in 4 to 6 weeks when it's grown out a bit and they ask for £20 for a dry cut.
 
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Ian H

Squire
I go to a pleasant, appointment-only barber at the bottom of town. 45 minutes with coffee, and reassuringly expensive. He quizzes me for business advice.
 

Pblakeney

Über Member
I go to a pleasant, appointment-only barber at the bottom of town. 45 minutes with coffee, and reassuringly expensive. He quizzes me for business advice.

Wait, so you are paying to give him free advice?
Sounds like he is the smart one. 😉
 
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Beebo

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I go to a pleasant, appointment-only barber at the bottom of town. 45 minutes with coffee, and reassuringly expensive. He quizzes me for business advice.

Booking is always more expensive.
Most barbers operate on a turn up and wait basis.
I’ve never seen a women’s hairdresser on a turn up and wait basis.
 

Pross

Well-Known Member
Booking is always more expensive.
Most barbers operate on a turn up and wait basis.
I’ve never seen a women’s hairdresser on a turn up and wait basis.

Mine brought in appointments when they were allowed to reopen in the pandemic and has kept them as an option. I always send a text, get a time and turn up then go straight to the front of the queue of walk ins. At busy times in the past I would often turn away when I saw the queue or sit and wait for maybe 45 minutes, now I'm in and out in about 10 minutes and pay the same price as everyone else (other than those under 4, under 14 or over 65 who have special discriminatory rates). That said, at £12 I'm not going to take them to Court over this.
 
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AuroraSaab

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Booking is always more expensive.
Most barbers operate on a turn up and wait basis.
I’ve never seen a women’s hairdresser on a turn up and wait basis.

There are some that specialise in walk in appointments, often in big shopping centres. In fact there was a chain, Supercuts, but it went into administration a few years ago. If you have a particular style and are happy with it most people prefer the same stylist who can give you the same result every time, especially women whose styles tend to be more complicated and vary more than men's.
 
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