PurplePenguin
Über Member
A friend of mine got dengue fever. That cured all his wart problems. Not sure he would recommend it though as he now understands why it is also called break bone fever.
Seemingly trivial things that elicit an emotional response of some kind
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A friend of mine got dengue fever. That cured all his wart problems. Not sure he would recommend it though as he now understands why it is also called break bone fever.
monkers
Pharaoh
briantrumpet
Timewaster
What is it with the endless supply of chuggers from what was Sustrans trying to flag me down? The one time I did stop, it was clear they had no clue at all about the local cycle routes. I'm starting to guess that they know that the change of name from Sustrans to Wheeling, Walking, Wanking (or whatever it is now) has obliterated the charity in public consciousness, and are trying to regain it by endless chugging on popular cycle routes.
OP
OP
First Aspect
Squire
Walk Wheel Cycle Trust. It's comedic.
Tbh if they want to encourage people to use our extensive cycle network, making the maps free would help.
It would also help if they stopped having any part of calling muddy unmaintained bridleways "cycle routes" .
Tbh if they want to encourage people to use our extensive cycle network, making the maps free would help.
It would also help if they stopped having any part of calling muddy unmaintained bridleways "cycle routes" .
briantrumpet
Timewaster
When they announced the name change, I knew it was a disastrous choice, not just replacing one word with four, but four that were easily forgettable. Not only that, but 'wheel' and 'cycling' overlap, and the 'trust' bit adds no real information about what it does.
Goodness how much they are paying these chuggers to try to raise awareness of a group that I suspect most members of the public still have never heard of, certainly in comparison with 'Sustrans'.
Maybe someone didn't like the 'trans' part of the old name. I can't see any other logical explanation.
Psamathe
Squire
Question: Did Sustrans suffer the same issue CTC faces where they recruited some "Charity Career Professional" to run the organisation. New "professional" comes in without complete appreciation of strengths it already has, has to stamp their way into things, brings in expensive image consultants, marketing consultants, advertising consultants (none of who even know what a bicycle is) and draw-up a crucial & expensive change of name and market strategy ...
briantrumpet
Timewaster
I do find it baffling why people don't check dictionaries before making bold language pronouncements publicly.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
Was that been disputed? It is an adjective. It is also a noun.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
She was definitely meaning it's only an adjective... I suspected I knew why (weaponised use of 'female' as a noun by a misogynist), and I was correct. If people are going to object to weaponised usage, it's better not to use a faulty grammatical explanation.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
Lonely Planet* always had advice for "lone females". I can remember reading it and wondering why they never said women., but as you say, it is accepted usage.
Separately, I find the discussion around what to call a women intriguing. There seems to be someone who finds pretty much any term objectionable whereas no one seems to object to the corresponding terms for men.
*When they used to make good quality guide books.
icowden
Pharaoh
I find the etymological confusion particularly amusing.
There are people who think that the word women having "men" as part of it is some sort of gender inequality because they don't realise that man or men means "person". It's only in modern parlance that it means "male". Originally we were wyfman (female) and werman (man). wyf-man becomes woman and wyf - wife.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Agreed with all this. The women in my cycling club were continually trying to get the older men not to refer to all the women's events as "ladies' events" (etc.), but it seemed to be in vain. Everyone knew it wasn't deliberate (just habit), but it was/is a pity when "it doesn't matter" enough to change habits.
My general approach is that organisations/writers/people should use parallel terminology where it exists, so male/female, men/women, and thereby defusing accusations of discriminatory terminology.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
But if one of those same male riders had said "Right gents/chaps/lads/boys/folk/guys, where are we riding today?" would anyone have batted an eyelid?
Whereas you can get pushback from calling a woman a woman.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Sure, there are some dual standards at play at times (I think I've mentioned before one or two female [adj.] Facebook friends who have railed at 'phwoar!' photos of women on FB, but then have put up pictures of hunky shirtless men at other times). Old habits die hard both ways. I'm not the sort to jump down people's throats on verbal banter (I know, hard to believe, eh?) That said, on written club comms, I think the criticism is fair.
I think it's always worth reflecting that if we (properly) should respect the terminology preferred by, say black people/people of colour, then we should do the same for women, especially if it's specifically requested, even if a particular grammatical objection isn't valid.
Psamathe
Squire
For, something I find a bit frustrating is the way politicians present & discuss inflation. That they present the impact as being the current figure (last 12 months) were the true impact is also the longer term inflation. eg (from the UK ONS https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/l55o/mm23) UK last 5 years
That it's sumulative, like "we've got inflation down" except that a lower (but above zero) inflation rate still means prices are increasing and it's a "ratchet" in that with positive inflation rate prices never recover to what the were previously. And it's cumulative/compounded so this years inflation amount is inflating the previously inflated price ...
That it's sumulative, like "we've got inflation down" except that a lower (but above zero) inflation rate still means prices are increasing and it's a "ratchet" in that with positive inflation rate prices never recover to what the were previously. And it's cumulative/compounded so this years inflation amount is inflating the previously inflated price ...
