Starmer's vision quest

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AndyRM

Elder Goth
Rayo Vallecano are a proper proletarian club. They dedicated their semi final victory to Palestine.

I was only half watching/listening to the build up and I didn't think that was mentioned. Their roots were though, so I reckon I have a Spanish side to pay vague attention to.
 
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C R

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I was only half watching/listening to the build up and I didn't think that was mentioned. Their roots were though, so I reckon I have a Spanish side to pay vague attention to.

See here

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/video-rayo-vallecano-player-takes-155500914.html
 

Psamathe

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His findings are really compounded when you hear from businesses that understand what an awful decision the increase in employer's NI coupled with the reduction in the employer NI threshold has been when considering the likelihood of employing those on lower wages, typically the under 25s.
The impacts of the NI changes were completely predictable yet Starmer/Reeves did them anyway. And not just with respect to employment but also impacts on growth, etc.
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
Alan Milburn's report is pretty depressing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clypw8gyn18t

His findings are really compounded when you hear from businesses that understand what an awful decision the increase in employer's NI coupled with the reduction in the employer NI threshold has been when considering the likelihood of employing those on lower wages, typically the under 25s.
We haven't increased the tax on hard working families, we've simply reduced the number of them.
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
Leftiebollox in action...
On this particular issue, unfortunately I agree. The unfunded 2% personal NI cut that Jeremy Hunt made (around the time his team were also removing the door handles and the letter "R" from all of the keyboards in No. 11 to inflict as much damage before his departure) should have been put back in place.
 
On this particular issue, unfortunately I agree. The unfunded 2% personal NI cut that Jeremy Hunt made (around the time his team were also removing the door handles and the letter "R" from all of the keyboards in No. 11 to inflict as much damage before his departure) should have been put back in place.

Talking of pre-departure damage, remember the outgoing Labour party in 2010 raising the top rate of income tax in an act of leftie spite? Something that you and I are probably still paying for as the rate never came back down to 40%.
 

C R

Legendary Member
Talking of pre-departure damage, remember the outgoing Labour party in 2010 raising the top rate of income tax in an act of leftie spite? to pay for the mess that unregulated markets created. Something that you and I are probably still paying for as the rate never came back down to 40%.

FTFY
 

tarric

Regular
Alan Milburn's report is pretty depressing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clypw8gyn18t

His findings are really compounded when you hear from businesses that understand what an awful decision the increase in employer's NI coupled with the reduction in the employer NI threshold has been when considering the likelihood of employing those on lower wages, typically the under 25s.
And meanwhile nearly 1 million people between 65 and 67 are still in work.
 
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BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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And meanwhile nearly 1 million people between 65 and 67 are still in work.

Why would they not be, the State Pension Age is now 67 I believe?

Personally, I think the "NEETS" is probably slightly more complex than a few working Pensioners (or Immigrants).

I am pleased to say, I am a non-working Pensioner, in fact, I released my job five years early. 😊
 

spen666

Über Member
And meanwhile nearly 1 million people between 65 and 67 are still in work.
This below from the IFS
There are approximately 1.7 to 1.8 million people aged 65 to 67 in the UK. Employment rates for this bracket are heavily influenced by the State Pension Age (currently 66). Roughly 15% to 20% of 65-to-67-year-olds remain in paid work, with a high proportion working part-time or self-employed.

the IFs seem to differ in their figures

Even taking the highest figures they give 20% of 1.8 million is only 360,000 in work
 
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