Starmer's vision quest

[Psamathe]

Capable of what is a question yet unanswered. So far, we have a plan to replace the 'flabby state' with something amorphous called 'AI'.

Newsnight last night was very interested as their "panel" included Dame Wendy Hall who was co-Chair of the UK government's AI Review and a Professor of Computer Science, etc - so maybe has better appreciation of AI than eg Starmer. And she was pointing out "yes ... but" eg AIs need to be trained and that takes time and knowedlgeable people (the Gov. don't employ at the moment). And currently these AIs need careful monitoring as they do make mistakes and taking over Government responsibilities is a different level from general ChatGPT online silliness. ie you can't just clone ChatGPT and us that - a lot lot more involved.

Staff, time, investment, etc. so she wasn't against the idea but talking about years ahead.

And on the radio thismorning (BBC R4) some Gov. minster talking about the work AI could do and all he was really listing is people submitting forms online rather than using paper and post - nothing to do with AI atall which made me really wonder how many in Government actually understand the difference between web/online.gov.uk and AI.

Ian

 

[Badger_Boom]

I do find that weird though. As someone who worked professionally as a Barrister at QC level. You'd have thought he'd be an excellent communicator and interrogator, unflappable and secure. But...

I don't think that he is a poor communicator, but he isn't a charismatic one. Some people seem to conflate the two.

 

[Badger_Boom]

Newsnight last night was very interested as their "panel" included Dame Wendy Hall who was co-Chair of the UK government's AI Review and a Professor of Computer Science, etc - so maybe has better appreciation of AI than eg Starmer. And she was pointing out "yes ... but" eg AIs need to be trained and that takes time and knowedlgeable people (the Gov. don't employ at the moment). And currently these AIs need careful monitoring as they do make mistakes and taking over Government responsibilities is a different level from general ChatGPT online silliness. ie you can't just clone ChatGPT and us that - a lot lot more involved.

Staff, time, investment, etc. so she wasn't against the idea but talking about years ahead.

And on the radio thismorning (BBC R4) some Gov. minster talking about the work AI could do and all he was really listing is people submitting forms online rather than using paper and post - nothing to do with AI atall which made me really wonder how many in Government actually understand the difference between web/online.gov.uk and AI.

Ian

Lets hope that the knowledgeable ones are those who survive the application of what might as well be named Project Thanos. My other half was tipped off that a 50% headcount reduction is coming to her sector of the civil service soon.

She's worked in similar roles in the same area for nearly 25 years, and has had to reapply for her job on average every 18 months to satisfy the drive for 'efficiency'. That's no way to run any kind of business, but if it keeps those who believe that the civil service does nothing happy then that's all good.

 

[Ian H]

Kiss of death for Starmer?

 

[Cirrus]

Lets hope that the knowledgeable ones are those who survive the application of what might as well be named Project Thanos. My other half was tipped off that a 50% headcount reduction is coming to her sector of the civil service soon.

She's worked in similar roles in the same area for nearly 25 years, and has had to reapply for her job on average every 18 months to satisfy the drive for 'efficiency'. That's no way to run any kind of business, but if it keeps those who believe that the civil service does nothing happy then that's all good.

50% cost reduction in the ICBs (Integrated Care Boards), got to be done by October according to a friend employed in one, they were told this morning.

 

[Psamathe]

I thiunk I don't understand "Those with the broadest shoulders". When winter fuel allowances cut for those in desperate need, when aid budgets cut massively, now (disability) benefit.

And now it's all sounding like George Osborne isa back in No 11, austerity again.

Ian

 

[monkers]

I thiunk I don't understand "Those with the broadest shoulders". When winter fuel allowances cut for those in desperate need, when aid budgets cut massively, now (disability) benefit.

And now it's all sounding like George Osborne isa back in No 11, austerity again.

Ian

Since when did broad shoulders become a disability I wonder.

 

[BoldonLad]

Overcautious and flabby state? Jesus wept, is this what passes for political vision these days?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx29lrl826rt
Keir Starmer making speech on tackling 'overcautious, flabby' state - live updates

NHS shake up, yes, that is a novel
Idea, nobody has tried that before,

 

[multitool]

The NHS is the 5th largest employer in:

a) England
b) Europe
c) the World

Answer without googling

 

[C R]

And the prize for non-sequitur of the day goes to.

The NHS is the 5th largest employer in:

a) England
b) Europe
c) the World

Answer without googling

 

[multitool]

No answer, though.

Well done.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

The NHS is the 5th largest employer in:

a) England
b) Europe
c) the World

Answer without googling

Sorry, what is your point?

 

[C R]

Sorry, what is your point?

He is avoiding the point by Gish galloping.

 

[multitool]

He is avoiding the point by Gish galloping.

Lol.

I haven't presented a single argument, let alone attempted to:

" overwhelm an opponent by presenting an excessive number of arguments, with no regard for their accuracy or strength, with a rapidity that makes it impossible for the opponent to address them in the time available"

Idiot

 

[multitool]

And the prize for non-sequitur of the day goes to.

LOL

A non sequitur is:

" a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement"

I haven't drawn a conclusion or made a statement. I asked a question. Added to which a non-sequitur requires two statements, or a statement and a conclusion.

Fool