Starmer's vision quest

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Stevo 666

Active Member
Why would I do that when it isn't what I claimed?

Andy posted an X shitpost entitled "Thousands of landlords are taking to social media to declare they won't be renting out their homes to illegal migrants under Starmers new plans".

I pointed out that it's a pile of steaming horse manure. Firstly landlords would not be renting to migrants they would be renting to the Government. Secondly those very few landlords who don't want to have desperate people in their properties even if the Government is covering the rent and any damage, are clearly xenophobic and/or racist.

The use of "illegal" is pointless as there is no legal route.

The much better solution which I have posted before would be for Starmer to grow a pair and change the way that the asylum process works. Instead of paying for asylum seekers to be fed and housed, you just let them work for a living. Simple. They don't get full citizenship until their claims are processed but in the meantime they can be given a National Insurance number and permitted to earn a living, buy their own food and pay rent.

Billions are freed up which can be used to assist those migrants in converting any qualifications they might have so that they can be used in the UK. They can be offered language courses.

The problem is the morons like Farage and Bad Enoch who only see asylum seekers as pieces of shite. They fail to see that these desperate, homeless people have travelled vast distances because they want to set up a better life. NATO is responsible for the bulk of asylum seekers. NATO destabilised Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc etc. If you start wars, expect to get people desperate to get away from war zones. If you abandon people to despots and religious tyrants, expect people desperate to get away from that oppression and violence.

It's your hero Trump who decided to abandon Afghanistan and let the Taliban take over - a Taliban that have ruthlessly oppressed women and girls. It was the previous worst republican President in history, Dubya who decided to invade Iraq over made up weapons and destabilised the whole region.

Then we have pompous rich morons like the 4th Viscount Rothermere and Murdoch who don't even live in the UK let alone pay taxes here who make money from frothing up the swivel eyed gammons by spreading hatred, racism and dissent and buy into Tice and Farage's brand of Fascism.

If we had any Conservatives left in the Conservative party they would be welcoming asylum seekers and getting them to work. That's how you boost an economy and take more taxes.

Nice little rant, but straying off the point somewhat.

This is what you said a page or so back:
"What a shock that racist people won't be renting out homes to people that they couldn't rent homes to if they tried,..."

Back it up with some evidence or I'll have to assume its a load of leftiebollox.
 

icowden

Squire
This is what you said a page or so back:
"What a shock that racist people won't be renting out homes to people that they couldn't rent homes to if they tried,..."
Go back and read my posts. Try harder. I have never said there was a study, just that Andy's post (as usual) is made up xenophobic nonsense.
 
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Stevo 666

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Go back and read my posts. Try harder. I have never said there was a study, just that Andy's post (as usual) is made up xenophobic nonsense.

I can't see a link to (or quote of) any verifiable source of evidence, just assumptions by you. Leftiebollox it is then.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
That's a 'no' when it comes to providing any evidence then 😉

We could discuss genuine concerns, but as far you can see there are none. But if you concede that there may be some genuine concerns then maybe we could debate them....

That's a profoundly weird, weapons-grade level of neurotic tin-earedness you're displaying. To simplify as much as I can - I posted a reaction, which I've already explained twice, but in case there was any remaining ongoing doubt - I was laughing at you. I still am. Even your Brother In Binburning MAGAndy does not need to have it explained to him when the piss is being taken.

And this is all the 'debate' you're going to get:

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Psamathe

Senior Member
I'm getting frustrated by Labour's language that is continually highlighting they just don't understand basics.

That they think people voted for "Change". No they didn't they voted for things to improve. Change for the worse was not the wish of the electorate.

That they are proud of "difficult decisions" again, what we need are good decisions. eg Do I blow all my retirement savings on a 2 week cruise or do I save it for my retirement; difficult decision but chosing to blow those much needed savings on the cruise might be a "difficult decision" but it's also a very bad decision.

Ian
 

Pblakeney

Active Member
I'm getting frustrated by Labour's language that is continually highlighting they just don't understand basics.

That they think people voted for "Change". No they didn't they voted for things to improve. Change for the worse was not the wish of the electorate.

That they are proud of "difficult decisions" again, what we need are good decisions. eg Do I blow all my retirement savings on a 2 week cruise or do I save it for my retirement; difficult decision but chosing to blow those much needed savings on the cruise might be a "difficult decision" but it's also a very bad decision.

Ian

Not so much a bad decision if you only have to look 4 years into the future.
Point taken though.
 
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icowden

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That they think people voted for "Change".
Let's say that they did. Most people would have assumed that to mean "for the better" or "to do something different".
As far as I can see, Labour haven't done a lot - certainly not for their fan base anyway.

Their sole achievement thus far is to piss off middle income parents that have children who need small school settings.
 

Pblakeney

Active Member
Let's say that they did. Most people would have assumed that to mean "for the better" or "to do something different".
As far as I can see, Labour haven't done a lot - certainly not for their fan base anyway.

Their sole achievement thus far is to piss off middle income parents that have children who need small school settings.

...and their parents/grandparents....
...and small businesses running at minimum cost on minimum wage...
 
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