Starmer's vision quest

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Psamathe

Senior Member
Their sole achievement thus far is to piss off middle income parents that have children who need small school settings.
You are forgetting the significant increase in the costs for any businesses employing any staff. "Growth at any cost" yet those who would be the main drivers for such growth are having their existing cost base increased plus discouraged form growing their workforce ...

Personally I do agree with their increase of minimum and living wages but it's the NI increases that will be the main issue for business.

Ian
 

CXRAndy

Veteran
This is why he is not suitable for representing the British public


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Stevo 666

Active Member
That's a profoundly weird, weapons-grade level of neurotic tin-earedness you're displaying. To simplify as much as I can - I posted a reaction, which I've already explained twice, but in case there was any remaining ongoing doubt - I was laughing at you. I still am. Even your Brother In Binburning MAGAndy does not need to have it explained to him when the piss is being taken.

And this is all the 'debate' you're going to get:

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At least I got a reaction from you 😉

You're deluded if you think that is the only possible reason. As above, happy to discuss if you accept that there are genuine concerns on immigration, but you clearly don't want to even think about it. Take the blue pill and stay in your dream world...
 

CXRAndy

Veteran
Gosh! A majority you can count on the fingers of one hand!

Only if take two out your arse :laugh:
 

Dorset Boy

Member
Let's say that they did. Most people would have assumed that to mean "for the better" or "to do something different".
As far as I can see, Labour haven't done a lot - certainly not for their fan base anyway.

Their sole achievement thus far is to piss off middle income parents that have children who need small school settings.

They've pissed off pensioners
They've pissed off those who send or want to send their kids through the private education sector
They've pissed off the farmers and rural communities
They've pissed off small businesses with the NI change
They've pissed off lots of other businesses with the NI change
They pissed off lots of those saving for retirement with their confused stance on tax free cash and contributions

And that's without having to think too hard on the subject
 

Stevo 666

Active Member
They've pissed off pensioners
They've pissed off those who send or want to send their kids through the private education sector
They've pissed off the farmers and rural communities
They've pissed off small businesses with the NI change
They've pissed off lots of other businesses with the NI change
They pissed off lots of those saving for retirement with their confused stance on tax free cash and contributions

And that's without having to think too hard on the subject

Is there anyone they haven't pissed off, apart from the unions?
 
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