Starmer's vision quest
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Stevo 666
Senior Member
Does seem that has not had a lot of 'air time' on here. I can hear the sound of heads being stuck in the sand now.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
Can you? It's not like we didn't know the way things have been going or working out, but it is odd that the fans of the right wing seem to pop up after their victories.
CXRAndy
Guru
We've been having fun with Starmer's daily buffoonery.
Macron's cocaine fueled punch ups with his boyfriend. Have you seen Paris burning from riots - coming to the uk soon most likely
Democrats in the US. They have a whole plethora of fun candidates
icowden
Shaman
No.
https://fullfact.org/immigration/sc...N5hA4hVteZzeC-pNXc1HzjfJKPCU5XYcaAkJUEALw_wcB
The Albanians have dropped right down now due to work done with the Albanian government.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511
The fact is that most asylum seekers arriving on small boats need asylum. 948,000 people arrived in the UK in 2024 of which 37,000 people arrived in small boats.
Whilst swivel eyed loons like Andy fiddle off into their cornflakes about small boats and the evils of rescuing desperate people, the fact is that the desperate people make up 3% of immigration. Farage and his moronic following love to demonise those that need help instead of focusing on legal immigration which is arguably where the "we haven't got space" brigade should be focusing their attention.
Those asylum seekers are the demographic most likely to inject money into the economy. They are desperate and willing to work. They have no choice but to try and make a better life and the evidence is that they work extremely hard to do so. They don't come here for free accommodation and food, they come here to earn money. Which means paying tax. Which boosts the economy.
Unfortunately Starmer seems to think that winning votes by pretending to be reform lite is more important than looking after the country
CXRAndy
Guru
And the billions being spent to house the illegals and the other billions spent on benefits for foreigners blows the whole net gain malarkey out of the water.
It's been a massive con to import cheap labour, keep them here for the benefit of multinational companies, endless lines of cheap labour. Whilst virtually no training for British youth has gone on for decades.
It's been a massive con to import cheap labour, keep them here for the benefit of multinational companies, endless lines of cheap labour. Whilst virtually no training for British youth has gone on for decades.
midlandsgrimpeur
Regular
Blimey, has Nurse not brought round the medicine yet this morning?
CXRAndy
Guru
You wonder why, because the country is sick to the back teeth of mass immigration illegal and legal
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Strategic Defence Review at a time with so much happening (Ukraine, Middle East, Trump/NATO), is Starmer the only person in the world who was surprised they need more money spent on defence?
Lots of strong words, how keeping the UK safe is the main role of Government and Strategic Defence Review says to do that needs lots more money and suddenly ... it's an ambition, not a crucial role of Government to happen at some undefined point in the future to some undefined extent, maybe if Starmer's ambitions come to fruition.
Just like the Winter Fuel Allowance, at some undefined point they will make some undefined changes coming into effect at some undefined time covering unspecified pensioners ... but "can I have the credit now for whatever, whenever I end-up doing please?"
Ambitious man is Starmer, won't actually do or commit to anything, just have "ambitions" (unspecified decisions for unspecified actions at unspecified time applying to unspecified groups coming into effect on unspecified date)..
Ian
CXRAndy
Guru
View: https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1929815747275927606?t=Cq5rspRhKlYnugDgBjHmwA&s=19
The attorney General getting a good kicking, rightly so, representing the enemies of this country
CXRAndy
Guru
Despite forewarning, this is how Starmer conducts government policy
View: https://x.com/AMAZlNGNATURE/status/1929810529406632160?t=3YFkfDi0v-PXz3aqyVTCXw&s=19
View: https://x.com/AMAZlNGNATURE/status/1929810529406632160?t=3YFkfDi0v-PXz3aqyVTCXw&s=19
midlandsgrimpeur
Regular
Whilst I do agree with this to a point, equal blame has to go on to us as the public. People want defence spending increased but they don't want to pay for it out of their pocket through higher taxes, or want to accept cuts to other services to fund it. Politicians don't want to lose votes so they end up compromising their intended policy to keep the status quo.
People who are wealthier don't want to shoulder the tax burden so they tell people that are poorer that it is immigrants who are taking up all the services and benefits and that is why we have less public money.
I have said it before, Labour is a party based on socialist principles and should act as such. Increase public spending, increase defence spending, make the wealthiest pay for it. The wealthy will always make the argument that why should they? They should do so simply because the vast majority have either made their money through the labour of others, or through inherited wealth, which will nearly always again have been made through the labour of others.
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