Starmer's vision quest

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Psamathe

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Oh, he's [Farage] a massively skilled populist, pretending to be 'for the downtrodden' (when his policies will only exacerbate their problems) and coming up with easy 'solutions' for everything in which 'everyone wins' (Brexit being his crowning achievement so far). But the BBC has played along with the game, not least in constantly platforming him: despite the Lib Dams having ten times as many MPs, they do not get proportionately anything like the exposure (especially on Question Time). And the BBC never challenge properly challenge Farage when he's spewing palpable nonsense, which helped deliver Brexit.
One aspect I can't understand is how little Reform's climate "policies" are questioned. I suspect it's something they may have to change over the next few years, particularly with voting age reduction. Most polls I've seem suggest Climate action is popular with the electorate, even more so in younger generations. If Reform stick to their very anti-anything and everything to reduce our climate impact then I'd expect them to be losing votes.

Ian
 

briantrumpet

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One aspect I can't understand is how little Reform's climate "policies" are questioned. I suspect it's something they may have to change over the next few years, particularly with voting age reduction. Most polls I've seem suggest Climate action is popular with the electorate, even more so in younger generations. If Reform stick to their very anti-anything and everything to reduce our climate impact then I'd expect them to be losing votes.

Ian

Given how heavily they are funded by fossil fuel industry, their stance is not surprising (ditto Republicans), but they need to be called out on it repeatedly and the reason for their stance exposed relentlessly. As @Pross noted elsewhere, reopening coal mines ain't going to be a massive vote-winner even in previous coal mining areas.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
How long ago was that?

As I might have mentioned before, I'll vote for the Least Worst Party, which means I'll probably vote for a party that has done things I don't agree with or might have policies I'm not 100% in favour of. And that's compromised in the FPTP system we have, so I might have to vote against the worst party who might get power (which was the Tories in 2024) by voting for the candidate most likely to defeat them in my constituency.

It would be nice if I could vote for the perfect party/candidate in my constituency without making all these compromises, but the perfect party and candidate doesn't exist, and we're lumbered with an imperfect electoral system. So shitty compromise it is.

2005 and 2010, there or thereabouts.
 

CXRAndy

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Pblakeney

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One aspect I can't understand is how little Reform's climate "policies" are questioned. I suspect it's something they may have to change over the next few years, particularly with voting age reduction. Most polls I've seem suggest Climate action is popular with the electorate, even more so in younger generations. If Reform stick to their very anti-anything and everything to reduce our climate impact then I'd expect them to be losing votes.

Ian

He was questioned a few times this morning. I can't remember the exact words so won't quote him but his responses when pinned down to details were along the lines of "Don't know" and "Don't have a clue". Any non-fanboi viewer would be able to see through the nonsense.
 
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briantrumpet

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He was questioned a few times this morning. I can't remember the exact words so won't quote him but his responses when pinned down to details were along the lines of "Don't know" and "Don't have a clue". Any non-fanboi viewer would be able to see through the nonsense.

And he needs to pressed on all those convenient 'don't knows'. "If it's a Reform policy, the electorate and I expect you to know the answer. What is it?"
 
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Pblakeney

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And he needs to pressed on all those convenient 'don't knows'. "If it's a Reform policy, the electorate and I expect you to know the answer. What is it?"

She did try at least once but (imo) knew it was a lost cause.
He won't answer direct questions on specifics with direct answers, because he can't. It's all unicorns and anyone with sense knows this.

It would be fun if someone would continually badger him a la Brian Walden though.
 
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glasgowcyclist

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