Starmer's vision quest

[Pblakeney]

Apparently it includes a "mutual defence"? where if Germany is attacked UK will come to its defence and if UK attacked Germany will come to our defence .... uuuum .... anybody remember NATO? and Article 5 (and even if Northern Mexico reneged on that, other NATO members would honour it).

Sounds to me like another of the useless meaningless deals Starmer keeps making and expecting to be praised gor.

Ian

Quite wise in my opinion to prepare for NATO disbanding. It will fail apart without the US and the only reason the Tard is supporting it now is because he thinks all that future spending is on US weapons.

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1946290123781325153?t=on1lI1cESwKRV7T4CxE24A&s=19

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1946860324226789720?t=4TsUyKLvPk_8kOBu9D06ow&s=19

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1946897361285845285?t=MYgb_NvCPTH1nyg8ckpT4A&s=19

 

[CXRAndy]

The country's gone to hell


View: https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1946860600434270273?t=VQ2AOvmrLFr7zDnamG9Etw&s=19

 

[CXRAndy]

Rachel's auctioning off £5 billion in bitcoins to fill another black hole

Of her creation

 

[CXRAndy]

The UK is soft in the head, what sane country would allow this


View: https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1946632255553798199?t=HbAGzwyx-c_61LC4kOqBFg&s=19

 

[AndyRM]

Unsurprisingly, Farage is spouting nonsense.

It's worrying that people just accept what he's saying as if it was true.

 

[briantrumpet]

Unsurprisingly, Farage is spouting nonsense.

It's worrying that people just accept what he's saying as if it was true.

I gather Laura Kuennsberg didn't do much pushing back on her programme this morning. The BBC's constant platforming of him and 'inability' to probe him on actual 'policies' or call him out on inconsistencies is, shall we say, notable.

 

[AndyRM]

I gather Laura Kuennsberg didn't do much pushing back on her programme this morning. The BBC's constant platforming of him and 'inability' to probe him on actual 'policies' or call him out on inconsistencies is, shall we say, notable.

I'll give him credit for knowing how to play a game.

Reminds me of the Saw films, which started off pretty fair, but soon became unwinnable challenges with little point other than creating a mess.

 

[briantrumpet]

I'll give him credit for knowing how to play a game.

Reminds me of the Saw films, which started off pretty fair, but soon became unwinnable challenges with little point other than creating a mess.

Oh, he's a massively skilled populist, pretending to be 'for the downtrodden' (when his policies will only exacerbate their problems) and coming up with easy 'solutions' for everything in which 'everyone wins' (Brexit being his crowning achievement so far). But the BBC has played along with the game, not least in constantly platforming him: despite the Lib Dams having ten times as many MPs, they do not get proportionately anything like the exposure (especially on Question Time). And the BBC never challenge properly challenge Farage when he's spewing palpable nonsense, which helped deliver Brexit.

 

[AndyRM]

Oh, he's a massively skilled populist, pretending to be 'for the downtrodden' (when his policies will only exacerbate their problems) and coming up with easy 'solutions' for everything in which 'everyone wins' (Brexit being his crowning achievement so far). But the BBC has played along with the game, not least in constantly platforming him: despite the Lib Dams having ten times as many MPs, they do not get proportionately anything like the exposure (especially on Question Time). And the BBC never challenge properly challenge Farage when he's spewing palpable nonsense, which helped deliver Brexit.

The Lib Dems lost me politically when they chucked Charles Kennedy under the bus and went back on their promises about student fees.

I'm sure they rue this loss.

 

[CXRAndy]

Oh, he's a massively skilled populist, pretending to be 'for the downtrodden' (when his policies will only exacerbate their problems) and coming up with easy 'solutions' for everything in which 'everyone wins' (Brexit being his crowning achievement so far). But the BBC has played along with the game, not least in constantly platforming him: despite the Lib Dams having ten times as many MPs, they do not get proportionately anything like the exposure (especially on Question Time). And the BBC never challenge properly challenge Farage when he's spewing palpable nonsense, which helped deliver Brexit.

Why wouldn't they offer him a platform?

He's extremely popular, touted as possibly the next PM.

BBC have soft interviewed all the other parties at some point.

 

[Pross]

The Lib Dems lost me politically when they chucked Charles Kennedy under the bus and went back on their promises about student fees.

I'm sure they rue this loss.

To be fair they were a minor coalition partner and managed to get other policies through that otherwise wouldn’t have made it by sacrificing the student fees pledge. I always feel they get too much flak for it, what else could they have done?

 

[briantrumpet]

The Lib Dems lost me politically when they chucked Charles Kennedy under the bus and went back on their promises about student fees.

I'm sure they rue this loss.

How long ago was that?

As I might have mentioned before, I'll vote for the Least Worst Party, which means I'll probably vote for a party that has done things I don't agree with or might have policies I'm not 100% in favour of. And that's compromised in the FPTP system we have, so I might have to vote against the worst party who might get power (which was the Tories in 2024) by voting for the candidate most likely to defeat them in my constituency.

It would be nice if I could vote for the perfect party/candidate in my constituency without making all these compromises, but the perfect party and candidate doesn't exist, and we're lumbered with an imperfect electoral system. So shitty compromise it is.