Starmer's vision quest

[spen666]

I've no idea if it was deliberate or advertent. Do you? Even HMRC make mistakes over tax, as you will be aware of, not least as you got a seven-figure judgement against them.

FWIW, in France there is a constitutional right to correct honest tax mistakes without penalty.

Bottom line is, as I say, if she's broken the law, she should go. If she hasn't, I'd expect her to fight her corner, in the same way Jeremy Hunt did over his property portfolio, which wasn't illegal either, IIRC.

The problem for Rayner is the Clear statement on their website from HMRC that you do not get the lower rate if you have another property , even if it is held in trust for a child under 18

 

[Shortfall]

I've no idea if it was deliberate or advertent. Do you? Even HMRC make mistakes over tax, as you will be aware of, not least as you got a seven-figure judgement against them.

FWIW, in France there is a constitutional right to correct honest tax mistakes without penalty.

Bottom line is, as I say, if she's broken the law, she should go. If she hasn't, I'd expect her to fight her corner, in the same way Jeremy Hunt did over his property portfolio, which wasn't illegal either, IIRC.

I'm just trying to get the hang of this whataboutery business on NCAAP. Does the rule only apply if the person making the argument is someone you disagree with but it's ok if it's you or somebody who you side with who's doing it? In any case, the legalities of it make no odds to me. If you've spent your long years in opposition loudly attacking the Toreh Scum for avoiding tax then you're hoist by your own pertard if you're found to be at it yourself and you should walk.

 

[Shortfall]

Rees Mogg has a good take on it all in this clip. I realise some of you might feel dirty and have to wash yourself after viewing it but he makes a compelling (and very fair) argument about why she should go.


View: https://youtu.be/CLtkeSI9YWo?si=cbTtcv2VoCcMn1rA

 

[CXRAndy]

Myself and Kier have said if you break the rules WE cannot continue in office


View: https://x.com/decorativeartt/status/1963651169743433805?t=FQTJOzR5ubLKZsaLDeuDFw&s=19

 

[AndyRM]

Rees Mogg has a good take on it all in this clip. I realise some of you might feel dirty and have to wash yourself after viewing it but he makes a compelling (and very fair) argument about why she should go.


View: https://youtu.be/CLtkeSI9YWo?si=cbTtcv2VoCcMn1rA

I'm saddened that it's not on a series of daguerreotypes accompanied by a soundtrack played on wax, but he's not far wrong.

 

[spen666]

Rees Mogg has a good take on it all in this clip. I realise some of you might feel dirty and have to wash yourself after viewing it but he makes a compelling (and very fair) argument about why she should go.


View: https://youtu.be/CLtkeSI9YWo?si=cbTtcv2VoCcMn1rA

too long to watch

 

[spen666]

It is not getting better for Rayner.

Her conveyancers say they didn't provide her with tax advice


View: https://x.com/DanNeidle/status/1963661815319027905

 

[spen666]

And another issue raised by the Telegraph for Rayner to deal with


View: https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1963642234475065671

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Optical aside, as a trustee she is legally obliged to act in her sons best interests. It's hard to see how transferring £162k of cash from the trust fund n return for a quarter share of a property is in the child's best interests. Although maybe I've missed something there?

I can't comment as I have no experience of Trusts but as her husband and the Solicitor that form the other Trustees must have approved it, then they collectively must have agreed it was in the child's interest to allow her to do so. It wouldn't solely be her decision.

 

[Shortfall]

too long to watch

He was very gracious towards her but in a nutshell he said live by the sword die by the sword.

 

[CXRAndy]

The conveyancing firm, said they used the HMRC calculator to work out the Stamp duty. The figures and information provided by Rayner

She's

 

[BoldonLad]

An interesting aside is that the Guardian and the BBC are reporting that for her purchase of a property in Hove, Sussex, Rayner used not a solicitors firm, but a firm of licenced conveyancers based in Herne Bay, Kent.

1. It is unlikely that this firm could give her "expert" tax advice on her situation. If she is relying on advice from them, she has I think shot herself in the foot - however, we do not know if she had tax advice from this firm of licenced conveyancers
2. I'm curious why someone from Manchester area, living also in Central London would use a conveyancing firm based in Kent for a purchase in Sussex. - not that there is on the face of it anything at all wrong with this, but it does raise questions of why she used that firm

It was "breaking news" this evening on National BBC News, the company which did the Conveyancing have issued a statement stating that they did not offer tax advice.

 

[CXRAndy]

The valuation of the Manchester house is twice the other properties on the same street

 

[Dorset Boy]

I made a comment upthread about the silence from certain huge critics of the last governments, and lo and behold, one of the prime culprits has come to Angie's defence...... Brian, you are better than this.

 

[briantrumpet]

I made a comment upthread about the silence from certain huge critics of the last governments, and lo and behold, one of the prime culprits has come to Angie's defence...... Brian, you are better than this.

Am I defending her by saying if she's done anything illegal she has to go? That's a weird kind of defence.