Starmer's vision quest

[CXRAndy]

Sheer panic from Starmer.

A million peacefully march through London, some 20 arrests for scuffles with police

 

[secretsqirrel]

I wonder if this was sanctioned/scripted by McSweeney, or if there is an inner Starmer that this came from. It would have been better quicker, but it's much better than the initial silence and Kyle's 'freedom of speech' guff. (This was on Channel 4 News.)

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Starmer does tend to do what people want him to a day or two later. Is he cautious and likes to consider the details before committing?

Is this a bad thing? Or is he just too slow in this age of instant and spontaneous.

 

[briantrumpet]

Starmer does tend to do what people want him to a day or two later. Is he cautious and likes to consider the details before committing?

Is this a bad thing? Or is he just too slow in this age of instant and spontaneous.

I think there is a place for carefully considered statements in many circumstances, but if you wait too long to criticise something that would seem to be sticking two fingers up to your core beliefs, if you wait too long it simply makes you look like a coward who is prepared to supress your beliefs because making a principled stand might cost you a few racist votes (for instance).

I shared Dunt's frustration evident here, before Starmer saw fit to make his distaste known. This is not something that needs careful consideration. Racists and 'mass repatriation' need calling out, and there has been a sense of relief that Starmer finally got around to it.

https://bsky.app/profile/rolandmcs.bsky.social/post/3lyvnwiem4s2a

 

[secretsqirrel]

I think there is a place for carefully considered statements in many circumstances, but if you wait too long to criticise something that would seem to be sticking two fingers up to your core beliefs, if you wait too long it simply makes you look like a coward who is prepared to supress your beliefs because making a principled stand might cost you a few racist votes (for instance).

I shared Dunt's frustration evident here, before Starmer saw fit to make his distaste known. This is not something that needs careful consideration. Racists and 'mass repatriation' need calling out, and there has been a sense of relief that Starmer finally got around to it.

https://bsky.app/profile/rolandmcs.bsky.social/post/3lyvnwiem4s2a

Agreed re calling out racists. But with the Rayner and Mandelson stuff he either was reluctant to act, dithering or really did need to mull over details.

 

[briantrumpet]

Agreed re calling out racists. But with the Rayner and Mandelson stuff he either was reluctant to act, dithering or really did need to mull over details.

Yeah, agreed re those, but especially when it's the RW press eager for a scalp. (Maybe the Mandelson one was an easier one to call early, but that only lingered a day, and that might have been down to going through various processes.)

 

[icowden]

Plenty on here have mentioned Epsteins paedo ring, and have suggested other public figures were involved, and suggested names, yet I get singled out for suggesting Mandelson, self confirmed best mate of Epstein, might have also indulged?
Jesus wept.

Perfectly valid except that there is significant evidence of Epstein recruiting girls but none as far as I can see, involving boys.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Sheer panic from Starmer.

A million peacefully march through London, some 20 arrests for scuffles with police

Which reputable source, not X or TikTok, gave you that figure of 1 million?