Starmer's vision quest
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monkers
Shaman
We dont want you, clear off and sort yourselves out
Who are these ''we'' people that you say you speak for?
CXRAndy
Squire
Ask a variety of folk and you will find many would be glad to get rid of Scotland
monkers
Shaman
eh? You think Ethiopia wants every other country's unwanted migrants?
By the way, we are all African by origin - fancy being sent back to Africa?
monkers
Shaman
Are you elected to speak for this ''variety of folk'' that make these demands?
AndyRM
Elder Goth
I have to admit that the idea of CXRAndy knowing a variety of folk has made me chuckle.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
Voice Of The People, innit?
The pigshit-stupid, hate-fuelled, racist, fascist-loving, basement-dwelling, masturbating-in-their-own-faeces fantasist loser people, that is.
Psamathe
Guru
More and more talk about Labour breaking their manifesto pledge on the main taxes.
Thinking: If they do they would be arming Reform and other parties as whatever Labour pledge next election manifesto "... and we all have experience of how quickly Labour ignore their pledges".
It will highlight how little over a year ago Labour were claiming to have the answers. Then 1st budget they appreciated they didn't so raised taxes and that "fixed the economy" and "we won't be back for more". Theh just 12 months later sounding like they didn't have all the answers, didn't fix the economy and will be back for more.
To me they are continually demonstrating they don't have answers, don't have a clue as to what to do and are playing policy bingo, "oh deer, lets try this ... oh dear, didn't help, maybe try that ..."
They are coming across as increasingly less capable and breaking major manifesto pledges will make that even clearer as well as proving them untrustworthy.
Thinking: If they do they would be arming Reform and other parties as whatever Labour pledge next election manifesto "... and we all have experience of how quickly Labour ignore their pledges".
It will highlight how little over a year ago Labour were claiming to have the answers. Then 1st budget they appreciated they didn't so raised taxes and that "fixed the economy" and "we won't be back for more". Theh just 12 months later sounding like they didn't have all the answers, didn't fix the economy and will be back for more.
To me they are continually demonstrating they don't have answers, don't have a clue as to what to do and are playing policy bingo, "oh deer, lets try this ... oh dear, didn't help, maybe try that ..."
They are coming across as increasingly less capable and breaking major manifesto pledges will make that even clearer as well as proving them untrustworthy.
First Aspect
Veteran
I think he's confusing Ethiopia with Rwanda, because they are both in the brown people part of Africa.
In fairness they are only separated by a out the distance between London and Kyiv.
briantrumpet
Legendary Member
They were stupid manifesto pledges, especially bearing in mind Hunt's NI-reduction trap. TBH, they can't go much lower in the polls now, so they might as well do what they need to now and hope that things are looking rosier come the GE (even if that seems implausible).
glasgowcyclist
Veteran
No he wasn’t.
briantrumpet
Legendary Member
Aaaand the conversation is being dictated here by you-know-who.
First Aspect
Veteran
They need to push welfare reform through and ditch the triple lock. They are deciding to raise taxes to avoid a back bench revolt, from a lot of back benchers who will need a new job in 3 1/2 years' time.
briantrumpet
Legendary Member
Agree re triple lock - what welfare reforms should they do that aren't going to incite pitchfork revolts?
Psamathe
Guru
My thoughts were also that they'll be badly damaging their next General Election campaign as when Reform (and others) say how Labour's election pledges can't be trusted they'll be right and the electorate (now paying higher taxes) will be very aware that a Labour election pledge is meaningless.
ie not only polls now for things like May & Bye elections but it will badly (for Labour) damage next General Election. But then maybe Starmer will be gone by then and new leader seems to shed the lies and failures of their Party (even when the new leader was part of and supporting those failings).
