Starmer's vision quest

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CXRAndy

Shaman
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
Guess when Rachel opened her mouth. :laugh:
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What's she done to the rental markets
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C R

Guru
Quite. But, at the same time...

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I was aiming to ape the village idiot who has gone conspicuously silent on the subject once the reality of the situation became clear.
 

briantrumpet

Legendary Member
I was aiming to ape the village idiot who has gone conspicuously silent on the subject once the reality of the situation became clear.

He'll just move onto another topic that X is spewing, after a dignified silence of at least 13 seconds. Anything to wind up the libs & get a response.
 
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Dorset Boy

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I don't understand all this press speculation. Starmer/Reeves have already made it explicitly clear with firm commitments & promises: no income tax increase, no NI increase and no VAT increase. Plus after the budget 1 yer ago Reeves explicitly stated she "will not be coming back for more".

So why speculate when there are already firm commitments?

Because Rachel's plan for growth has failed dismally due to her last budget, and she has created a bigger black hole which needs filling.
KS and RfA have been laying the groundwork for increasing one of the major taxes, and breaking their manifesto promises.
 

secretsqirrel

Active Member
Because Rachel's plan for growth has failed dismally due to her last budget, and she has created a bigger black hole which needs filling.
KS and RfA have been laying the groundwork for increasing one of the major taxes, and breaking their manifesto promises.

It is inevitable whoever is in power. Folks who can’t handle the truth get lied to.
 

Psamathe

Guru
I don't understand all this press speculation. Starmer/Reeves have already made it explicitly clear with firm commitments & promises: no income tax increase, no NI increase and no VAT increase. Plus after the budget 1 yer ago Reeves explicitly stated she "will not be coming back for more".

So why speculate when there are already firm commitments?
Because Rachel's plan for growth has failed dismally due to her last budget, and she has created a bigger black hole which needs filling.
KS and RfA have been laying the groundwork for increasing one of the major taxes, and breaking their manifesto promises.
I think breaking the very specific, very high profile manifesto pledges on top of the "we won't be coming back for more" will do more damage to politics than just making Labour a 1-term Government. People are already pretty cynical about politics mainly driven by politicians and to break such prominent, un-ambiguous pledges so soon into a Parliament (not half way through yet) will make "what's the point, they just lie the whole time ...", how politicians just can never ever be believed. Won't just damage Labour but all Westminster.
 
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icowden

Shaman
I think breaking the very specific, very high profile manifesto pledges on top of the "we won't be coming back for more" will do more damage to politics than just making Labour a 1-term Government.
To me, I think it's time that Politicians learned to be more honest. Instead of months of "We will not put taxes up because we promised not to put taxes up " why not just say

"In our manifesto we promised not to raise taxes. However since taking power it has become apparent that our financial situation is far more perilous than was expected - largely due to the Conservative Government hiding data from the OBR. In view of this we will need to revisit our manifesto commitment. We don't want to raise taxes but we may have to. We will try to do this as fairly as possible"

Then cushion it with

"We will also be ending LLP tax breaks, ending offshore tax breaks and closing tax loopholes. Additionally we will be creating a transaction tax payable by all multinational online vendors so that they pay their fair share of tax based on transactions carried out in the UK"
 
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