Starmer's vision quest
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icowden
Squire
Allow me to clarify.
Bob the landlord has some concerns about immigration. However he recognises that his letting of property is a business and therefore rents his property to anyone with the appropriate references and damage deposit.
Nigel the landlord also has concerns about immigration. He has decided he will only rent to white British people because he hates illegals. Nigel is a racist c
matticus
Guru
Do you find that most people you deal with feel they have the moral high ground?
CXRAndy
Guru
I've seen some folk look down on others.
What these people fail to see the fast approaching upper cut for being so snooty
Stevo 666
Well-Known Member
Are any of these facts, or just stuff you've made up? This backs up my point above rather well.
Stevo 666
Well-Known Member
Nope.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Isn’t an alternative view of “Bob the landlord” that he is a capitalist fat cat with no morals, driven entirely by profit?
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
I'm going to assume you're unaware of the fact that the phrase 'genuine concerns' is pretty much a meme in its own right.
icowden
Squire
Absolutely. I didn't say he was a nice person.
Stevo 666
Well-Known Member
Good attempt at deflection.
How about providing some evidence to support the claim that these landlords are all racist.
Stevo 666
Well-Known Member
Found any evidence to support your claim?
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
It's really not. I posted a laughing emoticon - which I assume is what's made you so angry and defensive - as a response to your use of the phrase "genuine concerns on immigration", which, as I have already explained, has a context within the immigration 'debate', whether you are aware of it or not.
I've made no other comment in response to your post, and have no idea why you're badgering me to get involved. Insecurity, perhaps?
icowden
Squire
Why would I do that when it isn't what I claimed?
Andy posted an X shitpost entitled "Thousands of landlords are taking to social media to declare they won't be renting out their homes to illegal migrants under Starmers new plans".
I pointed out that it's a pile of steaming horse manure. Firstly landlords would not be renting to migrants they would be renting to the Government. Secondly those very few landlords who don't want to have desperate people in their properties even if the Government is covering the rent and any damage, are clearly xenophobic and/or racist.
The use of "illegal" is pointless as there is no legal route.
The much better solution which I have posted before would be for Starmer to grow a pair and change the way that the asylum process works. Instead of paying for asylum seekers to be fed and housed, you just let them work for a living. Simple. They don't get full citizenship until their claims are processed but in the meantime they can be given a National Insurance number and permitted to earn a living, buy their own food and pay rent.
Billions are freed up which can be used to assist those migrants in converting any qualifications they might have so that they can be used in the UK. They can be offered language courses.
The problem is the morons like Farage and Bad Enoch who only see asylum seekers as pieces of shite. They fail to see that these desperate, homeless people have travelled vast distances because they want to set up a better life. NATO is responsible for the bulk of asylum seekers. NATO destabilised Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc etc. If you start wars, expect to get people desperate to get away from war zones. If you abandon people to despots and religious tyrants, expect people desperate to get away from that oppression and violence.
It's your hero Trump who decided to abandon Afghanistan and let the Taliban take over - a Taliban that have ruthlessly oppressed women and girls. It was the previous worst republican President in history, Dubya who decided to invade Iraq over made up weapons and destabilised the whole region.
Then we have pompous rich morons like the 4th Viscount Rothermere and Murdoch who don't even live in the UK let alone pay taxes here who make money from frothing up the swivel eyed gammons by spreading hatred, racism and dissent and buy into Tice and Farage's brand of Fascism.
If we had any Conservatives left in the Conservative party they would be welcoming asylum seekers and getting them to work. That's how you boost an economy and take more taxes.
AuroraSaab
Shaman
As long as the application system takes as long as it does, the problems will persist. Allowing asylum seekers to work would likely add to the problems long term because there would be high unemployment rates given language difficulties, not being able to do crb checks etc. The cost and practicalities of monitoring, supporting, and still having to find accommodation for people who would likely be unemployed or in minimum wage jobs makes it a likely non starter.
It was in Biden's manifesto to withdraw troops from Afghanistan. He followed through on Trump's plan even when it was clear the Afghan government would immediately collapse.
ICowden looks to be morphing into Multitool, minus the swearing.
It was in Biden's manifesto to withdraw troops from Afghanistan. He followed through on Trump's plan even when it was clear the Afghan government would immediately collapse.
ICowden looks to be morphing into Multitool, minus the swearing.
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