Starmer's vision quest

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CXRAndy

Guru
All shittys are shyte.

London seems fairly well regarded. York, Edinburgh, Oxford, Cambridge, Bristol, Inverness. Just a list of nice cities off the top of my head.

I'll grant you this doesn't include most of the Midlands and the north west.

York is very much Jekyll Hyde city. Pretty to look at during the day. Turns into a complete shoot hole at night people fighting including women in the streets, puke everywhere, total dump. You would not to walk around in the evenings
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
Ha, too quick for me to quip.

Though judging by Facebook, Exeter was at it's finest in the 1960s, with a dual carriageway running through the Hight Street, and postwar town planning dominating the city. It's just a pile of poo now, apparently.

Urban areas don't seem to be any worse than when I was young and my dear late lamented mother warned me against a certain street where teddy-boys congregated - apparently oblivious to the fact that two of her cousins had the quiffs, wore the drapes and shoe-string ties.
 

briantrumpet

Senior Member
Urban areas don't seem to be any worse than when I was young and my dear late lamented mother warned me against a certain street where teddy-boys congregated - apparently oblivious to the fact that two of her cousins had the quiffs, wore the drapes and shoe-string ties.

Ah, but you obviously don't frequent Nostalgia Alley, where the cherry trees are always in bloom and no-one ever slips and twists an ankle on squelchy blossom on the pavement, where you can leave your front door open and that scary man from the public information films doesn't come in and snatch you, and all the traffic pollution magically is neutralised by the smell of coffee roasting in Carwardines.
 
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Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
You are right Andy. And we should absolutely condemn 36,000 other Asylum seekers, to death, rape torture or worse because 3 spies snuck in.
Totally proportionate.

He doesn't understand you're being ironic.
 

CXRAndy

Guru
You are right Andy. And we should absolutely condemn 36,000 other Asylum seekers, to death, rape torture or worse because 3 spies snuck in.
Totally proportionate.

But it shows the complete lack of checks. It only takes one to create absolute destruction.
 

First Aspect

Active Member
What would you rather they do?

Struggling with the issue here myself. A lot of custodial sentences appease the tough on crime tough on other things crowd, but don't achieve much except train people how to get another one. It is also expensive.

Providing it's not striped pajamas and criminals chained to each other, community service is actually jolly Scandinavian. And they do everything better.
 
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Stevo 666

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Struggling with the issue here myself. A lot of custodial sentences appease the tough on crime tough on other things crowd, but don't achieve much except train people how to get another one. It is also expensive.

Providing it's not striped pajamas and criminals chained to each other, community service is actually jolly Scandinavian. And they do everything better.

Apparently so, if you believe certain ex-Cake Stoppers.
 

Stevo 666

Well-Known Member
Stevo, as others have observed, you're non too sharp on the uptake. Come back when this has been funded, and has been functioning successfully for six months.

Not sure you've quite grasped the point that I was only asking about your preferred alternatives. Read my post again and have another go at replying without trying to be condescending.
 
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