Starmer's vision quest

[First Aspect]

Why are they protesting against wheelie bins? Take up too much space? Not emptied often enough? Too heavy?

 

[CXRAndy]

Germany can do it

 

[CXRAndy]

 

[Bromptonaut]

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And how different is our advice for France?

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1952636155867914342?t=tdwVEqJgH9H33k7cZKzMIQ&s=19

 

[CXRAndy]

Labour fibbed about the £22bn black hole,

spent over £100bn


created a £40bn black hole

In 1 year

 

[CXRAndy]

Sort the problem, dont blame the victim. Capture, prosecute, deport when appropriate

 

[AndyRM]

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Sort the problem, dont blame the victim. Capture, prosecute, deport when appropriate

Is it Curry's you've got an issue with here?

 

[Stevo 666]

Oh dear, Rachel from accounts has an estimated £51bn black hole to fill:
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/chancellor-warned-tax-rises-needed-073414295.html

Although at least Labour will be able to say that their black hole is bigger than the Tories one 🙂

 

[monkers]

Oh dear, Rachel from accounts has an estimated £51bn black hole to fill:
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/chancellor-warned-tax-rises-needed-073414295.html

Although at least Labour will be able to say that their black hole is bigger than the Tories one 🙂

The black hole is said to be £41.2bn.

To be honest, you'd need to be pretty dim not to realise that the cost of servicing the debt mountain left by the Tories has increased by about £20.6bn per year (typo amended).

You'd also need to be pretty dim to be gloating that the country is in trouble due to that and the Brexit fiasco. Yes Yes, yabber yabber, Covid and Ukraine - nothing to do with the fast lane contracts and the wealth gap being out of control.

 

[monkers]

As of September 2024, UK national debt reached £2.8 trillion, equivalent to 101% of GDP.

As of August 2025, the UK's national debt is estimated to be £2.83 trillion, which is roughly 96% of GDP.

Figures via copilot.

 

[First Aspect]

I think she'll raid pension pots and freeze income tax thresholds, combined with some more cuts.

Triple lock should go and I suspect there will be movement on state pension age sooner than is included on those forecasts.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think she'll raid pension pots and freeze income tax thresholds, combined with some more cuts.

Triple lock should go and I suspect there will be movement on state pension age sooner than is included on those forecasts.

But will no-one think of the pensioners?

I was talking to a younger (early 30s) musician last week, and he was mentioning his current retirement age being 68... I opined that that is highly likely to change well before he gets there, and there was just a kind of shrug.

Incidentally, I'd never taken in what 'WASPI' stood for - "women against state pension inequality". I assume that they'd been making lots of noise for all the years when women could retire at 60 while men had to carry on to 65 for their state pension. Maybe I missed all that noise somehow.

 

[Stevo 666]

The black hole is said to be £41.2bn.

To be honest, you'd need to be pretty dim not to realise that the cost of servicing the debt mountain left by the Tories has increased by about £20.6bn per year (typo amended).

You'd also need to be pretty dim to be gloating that the country is in trouble due to that and the Brexit fiasco. Yes Yes, yabber yabber, Covid and Ukraine - nothing to do with the fast lane contracts and the wealth gap being out of control.

The article linked said £51bn. Either way it's still larger than the last one, wouldn't you agree? And you'd have to pretty thick to think it wasn't at least in part down to the party currently in charge.

 

[Pross]

But will no-one think of the pensioners?

I was talking to a younger (early 30s) musician last week, and he was mentioning his current retirement age being 68... I opined that that is highly likely to change well before he gets there, and there was just a kind of shrug.

Incidentally, I'd never taken in what 'WASPI' stood for - "women against state pension inequality". I assume that they'd been making lots of noise for all the years when women could retire at 60 while men had to carry on to 65 for their state pension. Maybe I missed all that noise somehow.

I think they made a mistake in their acronym and should be WFSPI or WASPE (the latter probably works better). It's very ironic that they are campaigning for inequality to be extended at least long enough to benefit them and I'm amazed how they seem to get such positive coverage, maybe as they look like WI members and people think they'll invest the extra pension into making nice Victoria sandwiches.