Starmer's vision quest

[briantrumpet]

Has the troll completely taken over this thread.

No real idea, as he's on ignore, but I get the impression that people think it's worth wasting time replying to what might as well be a very disturbed AI magabot. They might as well have an argument with Grok thinking they are going to change Musk's mind.

 

[Rusty Nails]

On the rare occasion he contributes something other than spewing up an X, TikTok grab I am willing to reply. The inane Muzak is easy to ignore.

 

[briantrumpet]

I have to admit I've changed my mind on ID cards (as long as it's not compulsory to carry them at all times), but here's yet another example of terrible Labour politics: why not just call it the UK ID Card? Oh yes, they have to pander to the Reform loons.

 

[Mr Celine]

He’s just got nothing better to do than trawl through the stuff his search engine algorithms throw at him and dumps them here, which in his mind counts as discussing the topic.
Just treat him as that fly buzzing round the room, an annoying little thing but ultimately harmless.

Or just think of its carers who use the time it spends posting this crap to get a well-earned break from wiping the dribble off its chin.

 

[briantrumpet]

I have to admit I've changed my mind on ID cards (as long as it's not compulsory to carry them at all times), but here's yet another example of terrible Labour politics: why not just call it the UK ID Card? Oh yes, they have to pander to the Reform loons.

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Let's hope Mr Hutton is correct.

 

[briantrumpet]

My suspicion is that this amplified McSweeney/Glasman tactic is going to cripple Starmer: his MPs are going to be wondering WTF they are for if all Starmer is going to do is to agree with Reform, and they'll be looking for ways to turn this around. If Starmer won't change the tune, they'll plot against him. He's only a tiny step away from citing 'legitimate concerns'. Maybe he thinks he can balance on the fence between the two camps, but he's going to end up with a fence post up his arse.

 

[CXRAndy]

Starmers Swinney is looking at a police investigation to this £700k

Where it came from, why was it hidden and the cock and bull story about admin error

 

[briantrumpet]

Here's the full text of Starmer's Telegraph Reform tribute act.

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[Psamathe]

Figures taken out of context can be misused.
The biggest factor affecting moral at CPS at the time was the reduction in staffing levels of 25% consequence of the reduction in the CPS budget by the relevant governments

I think you are putting your own interpretation on the results of the survey. The report (which I'm not meant to have) does not put such interpretation. They are a very highly educated staff and the survey was not about "moral" but about how the organisation was being managed.

From the few reports from press that got hold of the survey

Just 21 per cent of staff believe the actions of Keir Starmer, the Director of Public Prosecutions, and his senior staff "are consistent with the CPS's values". Only 12 per cent believe "the organisation as a whole is managed well".

And it then transpired that in response to the survey Starmer/management rather than trying to improve things sent staff for "retraining". From one of the few reports about the survey

A source in the CPS said staff were amazed by the retraining order, saying: "It was a strange reaction. It seemed like the higher-ups were trying to brainwash us into going along with all the damaging reforms."

 

[Rusty Nails]

Starmers Swinney is looking at a police investigation to this £700k

Where it came from, why was it hidden and the cock and bull story about admin error

Is Starmer in charge of the Scottish Nats now?

At least try and take in the garbage you trawl before making a fool of yourself.

 

[CXRAndy]

Im saying there is significant pushback already from various groups for DID.

I doubt it will get off the ground.

Oh no my bad sweeney

 

[Xipe Totec]

Is Starmer in charge of the Scottish Nats now?

At least try and take in the garbage you trawl before making a fool of yourself.

Fücking hilarious.

If it was Swinney there'd be blue murder tents stretching off into the North Sea & armed coppers storming Holyrood & rounding ups SNP MSPs at gunpoint.

 

[Psamathe]

I have to admit I've changed my mind on ID cards (as long as it's not compulsory to carry them at all times), but here's yet another example of terrible Labour politics: why not just call it the UK ID Card? Oh yes, they have to pander to the Reform loons.

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ID cards are a disaster that will address nothing. The entire UK population having to have ID card just to stop a small number of asylum seekers working illegally (noting that in the EU such people working is legal). This small group are paid cash by employers who know why they are paying in cash and why they don't ask for an NI number.

When I lived in France carrying an ID card was supposedly a legal requirement (eg passport if foreign). I refused to carry my ID. After a tragic "incident" where I got my response right I got to know the local Gendarmes quite well (I lived remote and they'd often come round 16:00'ish (last couple of hours of their shift) and we'd sit outside drinking. Apparently law is (or was early 2000s) you must be able to prove who you are and if you can't worst they can do is hold you for max 4 hrs if they believe they have grounds

In France ID cards doesn't stop illegal working (eg 300,000 "sans-papiers" in France); we already have NI numbers in UK (so no additional cost). Last time Labour tried this is cost us (taxpayers) £4bn (completely wasted our money).

So last ID card effort cost £4bn yet Labour refusing to address horrendous levels of child property when removing the 2-child benefit cap would cost around the same (Local Government Association estimate scrapping 2-child benefit limit would cost only £1.3bn); supposedly we can't afford to address child poverty but we can afford 4x the amount for an ineffective PR stunt that won't address anything.

 

[briantrumpet]

ID cards are a disaster that will address nothing. The entire UK population having to have ID card just to stop a small number of asylum seekers working illegally (noting that in the EU such people working is legal). This small group are paid cash by employers who know why they are paying in cash and why they don't ask for an NI number.

When I lived in France carrying an ID card was supposedly a legal requirement (eg passport if foreign). I refused to carry my ID. After a tragic "incident" where I got my response right I got to know the local Gendarmes quite well (I lived remote and they'd often come round 16:00'ish (last couple of hours of their shift) and we'd sit outside drinking. Apparently law is (or was early 2000s) you must be able to prove who you are and if you can't worst they can do is hold you for max 4 hrs if they believe they have grounds

In France ID cards doesn't stop illegal working (eg 300,000 "sans-papiers" in France); we already have NI numbers in UK (so no additional cost). Last time Labour tried this is cost us (taxpayers) £4bn (completely wasted our money).

So last ID card effort cost £4bn yet Labour refusing to address horrendous levels of child property when removing the 2-child benefit cap would cost around the same (Local Government Association estimate scrapping 2-child benefit limit would cost only £1.3bn); supposedly we can't afford to address child poverty but we can afford 4x the amount for an ineffective PR stunt that won't address anything.

They don't address the problem that Starmer's using as the reason for introducing them, so yet again he's got the politics back to front. Had he introduced them as a utility to simplify people's online and IT-connected lives (NHS, HMRC, driving licences, etc) rather than as a knee-jerk reaction for a problem they won't solve, it would have been an easier sell.

 

[CXRAndy]

Golden boy Blair couldn't get DID accepted.

There is no chance TT flipflopper starmer is going to achieve it