Starmer's vision quest

[briantrumpet]

Starmer does a speech to the nation.
Says a lot of words but ultimately, nothing.

He's no great orator, even if he does have a good speech to read. Macron does this kind of thing far, far better, both in French and in English, not that it makes him any more popular with his own electorate.

 

[CXRAndy]

Starmer waffles, doesn't want, cant afford, scared of trade war with USA

Cooper falls asleep whilst the monotone Starmer blathers on

 

[Stevo 666]

Starmer does a speech to the nation.
Says a lot of words but ultimately, nothing.

What's new?

 

[TailWindHome]

 

[Psamathe]

I see from Starmer's press conference he's found his fence to sit on. Most commentators think poorly of his chosen fence.
A few excerpts:

Tough balancing act from Starmer today & don’t think he got it quite right.

He believes, he says, that Trump will be amenable to reason, though - as I said in my question to him - all evidence suggests otherwise.

The problem here is that Starmer couches his outlook & actions in the language of values... when President Trump speaks solely in the language of interests.

Brave words from @Keir_Starmer when the evidence so far suggests exactly the opposite

Starmer’s speech confirms what I speculated here: that Britain will be weakest link in Europe’s attempts to stand up to Trump over Greenland

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2026/jan/19/keir-starmer-greenland-tariffs-donald-trump-uk-politics-latest-news-updates?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-696e0d908f08fe8c0be1bbb0#block-696e0d908f08fe8c0be1bbb0

 

[C R]

Starmer’s speech confirms what I speculated here: that Britain will be weakest link in Europe’s attempts to stand up to Trump over Greenland

What's new?

 

[Pross]

I see from Starmer's press conference he's found his fence to sit on. Most commentators think poorly of his chosen fence.
A few excerpts:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2026/jan/19/keir-starmer-greenland-tariffs-donald-trump-uk-politics-latest-news-updates?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-696e0d908f08fe8c0be1bbb0#block-696e0d908f08fe8c0be1bbb0

There was something on the news last night that the Europeans feel he knows how to deal with Trump and that they are keen for him to do the negotiating. Of course, that could just be because they want to keep at least a bargepoles length from Trump themselves and Starmer is an enthusiastic patsy for them.

 

[briantrumpet]

The thing is that the headline isn't a fair summary at all of the sub headline: "US tariffs are in no-one's interests" isn't ruling them out at all, it's pointing out the pitfalls of using tariffs as a way of settling the dispute.

 

[secretsqirrel]

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I don’t get it sorry

 

[C R]

I don’t get it sorry

Me neither.

 

[spen666]

I see from Starmer's press conference he's found his fence to sit on. ....

Were you surprised he found a fence to sit on .


We must have in Starmer, a World Champion in Fence Sitting