Starmer's vision quest

[CXRAndy]

Do we actually have to go through the whole 'cutting off of our nose' bit again, like Brexit, before we accept that immigration is not only essential but actually has a large economic benefit?

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Only to gdp.

 

[CXRAndy]

Governed by morons


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[PurplePenguin]

Do we actually have to go through the whole 'cutting off of our nose' bit again, like Brexit, before we accept that immigration is not only essential but actually has a large economic benefit?

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Bigger population, bigger GDP. The focus should be GDP per capita.

 

[Bromptonaut]

If 6 million are better off on benefits* there's something very wrong with the relationship between earnings and living costs.

*Spoiler; they're not.

 

[Bromptonaut]

It was undoubtedly a political appointment probably based on Mandelson knowing how to handle Trump with the Epstein connection a known. But the depth of the sleaze would not have been known at the time.

That. Exactly.

Mandy was known to be able to work with Trump and his EU Commissioner role as a trade negotiator meant he was well equipped for trying to tie up a UK/US deal.

Asked if there was anything in his past that might bite his or the PMs bum he lied or at the very least was economical with the truth.

He was known to be a risk but assessed as a risk worth taking.

Epstein related disclosures in the States revealed the relationship was both longer and deeper than he'd admitted.

 

[BoldonLad]

If 6 million are better off on benefits* there's something very wrong with the relationship between earnings and living costs.

*Spoiler; they're not.

Don’t know about the 6 million, but, there are many* who are.

* I do not believe that anyone knows how many

As with many things, politically, it is the perception which counts, not the facts.

 

[Ian H]

Bigger population, bigger GDP. The focus should be GDP per capita.

The focus needs to be on equitable distribution of that GDP.

 

[swee'pea99]

The focus needs to be on equitable distribution of that GDP.

Whereas...

 

[BoldonLad]

From PE facts and figures, who to believe?

 

[TailWindHome]

Former Irish Taoiseach Bertie Arhen, no stranger to scandal, always said of politics 'it's the little things that trip you up'

This Mandleson thing has the hallmarks of just such a little thing.

It's not out of the question McSweeney will have to go as a firewall.

That firewall may not be enough

 

[CXRAndy]

The focus needs to be on equitable distribution of that GDP.

Focus needs to be equitable distribution to those who/'ve actively contribute to GDP

 

[pubrunner]

Just been watching Parliament on TV.

Starter just praying the Met charge Mandleson .... with anything, possibly stepping on the cracks in the pavement or wearing hilariously bad Y fronts !

Anything so he can say "the matter is subjudice so I can't talk about it".

 

[Dorset Boy]

Focus needs to be equitable distribution to those who/'ve actively contribute to GDP

So what about those unable to contribute due to their health or genetic conditions they were born with?
Do you just chuck them on your bonfire?

The wealth divide has grown massively over the last 25 - 30 years, with the ultra rich having become much, much richer compared to average people, let alone the poor. The mega rich used, once upon a time, be philanthopists, now their sole aim seems to be to increase the number of noughts at the end of the wealth summary, whilst giving nothing back to society.

Really once you get to about £100m, you cannot spend the income it generates (about £70,000 per day), so if you are a billionaire, why not put a few 100 mill back in to wider society?

 

[matticus]

Really once you get to about £100m, you cannot spend the income it generates (about £70,000 per day), so if you are a billionaire, why not put a few 100 mill back in to wider society?

oh yeah? Have you tried renting Venice for a wedding recently? Or sending 5 of your mates (all too briefly) into space??

 

[CXRAndy]

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