Starmer's vision quest

[TailWindHome]

Your maths is out. If 79 defected the majority is lost.
And the 81 MPs needed to back a challenge is remarkably close to that.

 

[briantrumpet]

FWIW, Bluesky is all over the place on Starmer, from ultra Starmer & party loyalists, to those on left & right of Labour who have obviously been biding their time to get the knives out, and virtually everyone completely sure of their own political analysis. Apparently Labour MPs themselves are playing out a psychodrama on X, and I do wonder if part of Starmer's problem (ditto Badenoch's) is that they think that X is representative of general opinion, instead of being populated by people who would just burn the house down and install Trump as World King.

 

[Pblakeney]

A question for those clambering for Starmer to go. What will be a positive outcome? What's the point?
I get that he is a major disappointment and would go in an ideal world, but this is not an ideal world and a GE is not on the agenda.

 

[Shortfall]

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

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I always had a hunch it was you, Boris. Welcome to NCAP.

 

[TailWindHome]

 

[TailWindHome]

81

 

[C R]

A question for those clambering for Starmer to go. What will be a positive outcome? What's the point?
I get that he is a major disappointment and would go in an ideal world, but this is not an ideal world and a GE is not on the agenda.

What are they clambering?

(sorry, I'll get my coat)

 

[TailWindHome]

Tells cabinet leadership election hasn't been triggered so he's staying

Which is fair enough if no one has what it takes to *take* leadership, why should he give it to them.

 

[icowden]

Your maths is out. If 79 defected the majority is lost.
And the 81 MPs needed to back a challenge is remarkably close to that.

Backing a challenge to replace your leader is a world away from wanting to call a General Election at the worst time possible and lose your job.

 

[briantrumpet]

Tells cabinet leadership election hasn't been triggered so he's staying

Which is fair enough if no one has what it takes to *take* leadership, why should he give it to them.

I can't see how this is tenable though if he doesn't reprimand (at minimum) the likes of Mahmood who openly called for him to go. Does he just let the trickle of resignations and people telling him to go just carry on, or does he actually do something, all the while the braying press desperate for a big story.

 

[briantrumpet]

Backing a challenge to replace your leader is a world away from wanting to call a General Election at the worst time possible and lose your job.

And those 81 (or whatever it is) can't even name a credible challenger. It sure is a shitshow.

 

[briantrumpet]

Anyway, all of this is overshadowing the electoral catastrophe for Corbyn's Someone's Party in the local elections. Gotta look for some laughs somewhere...

 

[Stevo 666]

It's almost certainly going to happen. And unsurprisingly it has been reported that the cost of government borrowing has hit the highest level since 1998, a real vote of confidence in Labour from the markets...

 

[Shortfall]

Just checking on Gilt yields, looks like they're currently higher than they were after the Truss/Kwartang budget when Starmer accused her of crashing the UK economy.