Strike!

[Ian H]

I don’t entirely disagree with that, but, it wasn’t the ONLY criteria I mentioned, you just happened to cherry pick that.

I never mentioned “profit”. Excess income in publicly owned services can be re-invested in the service for example.

Publicaly owned services are not immune to the changing environment in which they exist. Change is inevitable, and, did happen, even in the case of Royal Mail’s utopian past.

Most of your post was about the Post Office share price and dividends.

 

[BoldonLad]

Most of your post was about the Post Office share price and dividends.

Yes, that is true.

Clue, it was a reply to a post referencing Post Office Shareholders and Dividends, which the Poster appeared to be particularly upset by.

 

[Deleted member 49]

The Dividend is currently just over 6%, so, just a little more than what could be made in a fixed rate saving account, at the moment.

So, I don't really feel I missed out, indeed, I feel I dodged a bullet.

This reply tells me everything.

 

[matticus]

Speaking of P+O.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ts-record-breaking-profits-after-mass-sacking

Apologies if I've missed a bunch of relevant posts in-between, but I've just seen this (posted elsewhere):

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-03-20...-crew-wages-after-conditions-deemed-not-moral

Vives les Francais!

 

[Beebo]

I’ve been in London all day. The tube strike is annoying everyone. The west end traffic is totally gridlocked.

I am often supportive of strikes but this one seem to have virtually zero support.

Striking for a cut in working hours seems very indulgent to me.

Can anyone justify it?

 

[Rusty Nails]

I’ve been in London all day. The tube strike is annoying everyone. The west end traffic is totally gridlocked.

I am often supportive of strikes but this one seem to have virtually zero support.

Striking for a cut in working hours seems very indulgent to me.

Can anyone justify it?

You're asking the wrong people. It is not up to random forum contributors to justify it...unless they work on the underground.

 

[briantrumpet]

And there I was thinking you were thinking of me coming back to Devon two days early to avoid the nationwide strike in France on Wednesday...

 

[Beebo]

Very quiet on the upcoming junior doctor’s strike. Do they have any public support?

I can’t see how there is any justification for a 20%+ pay rise the year after a 28% pay rise.

 

[monkers]

Very quiet on the upcoming junior doctor’s strike. Do they have any public support?

I can’t see how there is any justification for a 20%+ pay rise the year after a 28% pay rise.

Opinions will vary, but such a long qualification period means that junior doctors have extraordinary debt upon qualification. Other countries offer more pay and better conditions. It is important to retain them, especially given the immigration culture war presently in the UK.

Wasn't it always the argument that we must retain the brightest and the best?

What is the average student debt of a newly qualified doctor in the uk?

Newly qualified doctors in the UK typically graduate with student debt ranging between £70,000 and £100,000, with many facing loan balances well above £80,000.

 

[Pblakeney]

Very quiet on the upcoming junior doctor’s strike. Do they have any public support?

I can’t see how there is any justification for a 20%+ pay rise the year after a 28% pay rise.

I'd offer them 5% and sort out the rest of their demands.
We need more doctors, the doctors are available. That there is a bottleneck is crazy.

 

[monkers]

I'd offer them 5% and sort out the rest of their demands.
We need more doctors, the doctors are available. That there is a bottleneck is crazy.

I say just wipe out their student debt. If we are serious about training people up to work in our most important state employment sector, then we must pay for their education and training. Yes I know that nurses and teachers will want that too.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Just cap their debt.
They are guaranteed employment, get a great pension, and when they move up the scale will earn a very good amount of money.

I think they are taking the wee wee asking for 20% on top of the 28% they got last year. I suspect they have minimal sympathy from the wider public.

 

[monkers]

Just cap their debt.
They are guaranteed employment, get a great pension, and when they move up the scale will earn a very good amount of money.

I think they are taking the wee wee asking for 20% on top of the 28% they got last year. I suspect they have minimal sympathy from the wider public.

As I said ''opinions will vary'' and it's only right that they should. I speak for nobody else, but in my opinion only, wiping out the debt is the correct thing due to these factors:

• The employer should be prepared to pay for the necessary training.
• Retention is a primary concern.
• Gives Streeting an opportunity to try a settlement without awarding a pay claim or at least to offer one in line with inflation without being seen to back down.

So I say, compare with the police service for one example, where an applicant can have good GCSEs but nothing more, good salary on start, have all training provided with out incurring debt, uniform, benefits including housing provision, early retirement on full pension. We hear less about police officers leaving the country due to the same factors as doctors.

 

[Cirrus]

Their student debt hardly (if at all) decreases, the interest rate on it makes it a Sisyphean task to attempt to pay it back.

 

[Ian H]

Way back when, I was paid to go to university.