The Good News Only - thread...

[PurplePenguin]

I think this is good news (sorry for the party political slant, hence the "I think"). @PurplePenguin will probably have a view, including whether this means there is a chance the UK's 'lectric price will continue to be tied to the cost of gas.

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I mentioned it in the Climate Crisis thread a few weeks ago. Yes, it is a lot of new wind power which is a good thing. Prices will still maintain some link to gas when gas turbines are required.

 

[briantrumpet]

I mentioned it in the Climate Crisis thread a few weeks ago. Yes, it is a lot of new wind power which is a good thing. Prices will still maintain some link to gas when gas turbines are required.

Thanks PP. I know you've explained the gas link before, but the link & ensuing volatility does seem to be getting increasingly tenuous and hard to understand and justify when this kind of thing is announced. I guess that the electricity companies aren't unhappy that the link remains (but that's probably just me being overly cynical). But the speed with which renewables are changing the market is a bit dizzying.

 

[Ian H]

And a bit of news that I think RJSterry would be pleased about... though maybe not by people who don't like Brutalism.

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And so it bleedin' should. Actually, I'd have guessed it was already.

 

[briantrumpet]

And so it bleedin' should. Actually, I'd have guessed it was already.

IIRC, the Barbican is already, so this seemed like an oversight.

 

[Pinno718]

And a bit of news that I think RJSterry would be pleased about... though maybe not by people who don't like Brutalism.

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Knock the f*cking thing down. NCP buildings are less of an eyesore.

 

[briantrumpet]

Knock the f*cking thing down. NCP buildings are less of an eyesore.

You could avoid going past it and being offended. I mean, you could stay a long way away from it, like, in Scotland. I know everyone doesn't like Brutalism, but the architectural world would be more boring without it, and a lot of people do actually like it.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Thanks PP. I know you've explained the gas link before, but the link & ensuing volatility does seem to be getting increasingly tenuous and hard to understand and justify when this kind of thing is announced. I guess that the electricity companies aren't unhappy that the link remains (but that's probably just me being overly cynical). But the speed with which renewables are changing the market is a bit dizzying.

I think you make it sound like a conspiracy when it really isn't. It's a market like any other with a link between supply, demand and prices.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think you make it sound like a conspiracy when it really isn't. It's a market like any other with a link between supply, demand and prices.

Not a conspiracy, but a mechanism that seems to suit the energy companies quite nicely, which, to someone ignorant like me who follows the news a bit, seems to be less and less suitable for the way the energy market is evolving.

Obviously I don't blame energy providers for not arguing against a mechanism that might suit them: it's like a contract that might seem generous to an employee - few people are going to say "I think I'm being overpaid" to the employer.

 

[matticus]

... a lot of people do actually like it.

Just like Mrs Browns Boys then?

 

[briantrumpet]

Just like Mrs Browns Boys then?

Haha, yes, and I'd metaphorically live as far away from that as possible so there's no chance of me seeing it by mistake.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Not a conspiracy, but a mechanism that seems to suit the energy companies quite nicely, which, to someone ignorant like me who follows the news a bit, seems to be less and less suitable for the way the energy market is evolving.

Obviously I don't blame energy providers for not arguing against a mechanism that might suit them: it's like a contract that might seem generous to an employee - few people are going to say "I think I'm being overpaid" to the employer.

I don't think it suits energy companies in the way that you think it does. It's a market of energy companies. One is selling power to the other. If it benefits anyone it is renewable energy generators, but if this pricing mechanism (aka a market) didn't exist nor would a lot of the renewable energy assets.

Anyway, so you are up to date, here is all the onshore wind and solar CFDs that have just been announced.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...ee8230a9c3a/contracts-for-difference-AR7a.pdf

and the fluffy words

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-auction-delivers-unprecedented-clean-homegrown-power

 

[briantrumpet]

I don't think it suits energy companies in the way that you think it does. It's a market of energy companies. One is selling power to the other. If it benefits anyone it is renewable energy generators, but if this pricing mechanism (aka a market) didn't exist nor would a lot of the renewable energy assets.

Anyway, so you are up to date, here is all the onshore wind and solar CFDs that have just been announced.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...ee8230a9c3a/contracts-for-difference-AR7a.pdf

and the fluffy words

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-auction-delivers-unprecedented-clean-homegrown-power

Thanks PP. Always grateful for your insight. (Just in case you're wondering, no sarcasm involved here, which I admit is unlike me. I'll recover soon, I'm sure.)

 

[Pinno718]

You could avoid going past it and being offended. I mean, you could stay a long way away from it, like, in Scotland. I know everyone doesn't like Brutalism, but the architectural world would be more boring without it, and a lot of people do actually like it.

What evs. Have you been to Saltsburg or Vienna or even your basic town/village in Germany?
If you built something that doesn't need welding goggles too look at and doesn't offend probably 80% of people or tourists, the the world would be a better place.

 

[briantrumpet]

What evs. Have you been to Saltsburg or Vienna or even your basic town/village in Germany?
If you built something that doesn't need welding goggles too look at and doesn't offend probably 80% of people or tourists, the the world would be a better place.

Don't you appreciate diversity in appropriate places? London ain't no Vienna, and it's big enough to house some characterful period Brutalism. You don't have to go there if you don't like it.

 

[Pinno718]

Don't you appreciate diversity in appropriate places? London ain't no Vienna, and it's big enough to house some characterful period Brutalism. You don't have to go there if you don't like it.

I don't/won't.