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briantrumpet

Timewaster
Genuinely wasn't sure there whether it was experimental music or band night at a nursing home featuring people who had never learned to play instruments...

If I get to the point of having absolutely no idea what performers are trying to communicate, and they give me no 'handle' on what I'm listening to (even if it's just 'groove', or a hint of harmony, or something, anything which relates to something that has a little relevance to recognisable sound worlds), I'm afraid my patience runs thin. It ends up being like listening to someone speaking in a completely foreign language with no reference points to help me get the first idea what is being said.
 

icowden

Pharaoh
If I get to the point of having absolutely no idea what performers are trying to communicate, and they give me no 'handle' on what I'm listening to (even if it's just 'groove', or a hint of harmony, or something, anything which relates to something that has a little relevance to recognisable sound worlds), I'm afraid my patience runs thin. It ends up being like listening to someone speaking in a completely foreign language with no reference points to help me get the first idea what is being said.

Same. Music is about connection, pattern and shape to me. To be able to join in, you become part of the pattern. With this stuff you could hit your head on a wall and it wouldn't be noticeable that you weren't part of the performance.
 
Genuinely wasn't sure there whether it was experimental music or band night at a nursing home featuring people who had never learned to play instruments...
After a John Butcher gig about 35 years ago, I decided there wasn't much in this genre of 'music' that I could connect with.
He appears to have persisted despite my lack of appreciation. Fair play to him.
 
If I get to the point of having absolutely no idea what performers are trying to communicate, and they give me no 'handle' on what I'm listening to (even if it's just 'groove', or a hint of harmony, or something, anything which relates to something that has a little relevance to recognisable sound worlds), I'm afraid my patience runs thin. It ends up being like listening to someone speaking in a completely foreign language with no reference points to help me get the first idea what is being said.

It's obvious. The guy on the left has fallen asleep and the two on the right are trying to wake him up.
 

Ian H

Pharaoh
If I get to the point of having absolutely no idea what performers are trying to communicate, and they give me no 'handle' on what I'm listening to (even if it's just 'groove', or a hint of harmony, or something, anything which relates to something that has a little relevance to recognisable sound worlds), I'm afraid my patience runs thin. It ends up being like listening to someone speaking in a completely foreign language with no reference points to help me get the first idea what is being said.

I think you were listening with the wrong ears.
 

secretsqirrel

spiteful class warrior
If I get to the point of having absolutely no idea what performers are trying to communicate, and they give me no 'handle' on what I'm listening to (even if it's just 'groove', or a hint of harmony, or something, anything which relates to something that has a little relevance to recognisable sound worlds), I'm afraid my patience runs thin. It ends up being like listening to someone speaking in a completely foreign language with no reference points to help me get the first idea what is being said.

I would say that if words spoken (or sung) in a completely foreign language is being delivered beautifully, then I don’t think it matters what they are saying. You can still immerse yourself in the rhythm and tone like listening to music.

But, getting weird sound effects from a saxophone is not clever. I know from experience.
 

Ian H

Pharaoh
If I get to the point of having absolutely no idea what performers are trying to communicate, and they give me no 'handle' on what I'm listening to (even if it's just 'groove', or a hint of harmony, or something, anything which relates to something that has a little relevance to recognisable sound worlds), I'm afraid my patience runs thin. It ends up being like listening to someone speaking in a completely foreign language with no reference points to help me get the first idea what is being said.

Perhaps you'll prefer something more conventional.
https://londonsinfonietta.org.uk/explore/video/broken-images-sir-harrison-birtwistle/
 

briantrumpet

Timewaster

Not a ditty I know, and not an 'easy' listen, but I've got some things to hang onto there, such as recognisable harmony and rhythmic stuff (which relies on a beat of some description), variations in texture & tempo, clearly intended coordination between players etc.

Even if you're not sure what Birtwistle and the musicians are trying to communicate, I've got hooks to keep me interested and wanting to find out "what's going to happen next?", rather than what I might label 'random sound effects with no identifiable purpose' (if I were being blunt).

I remember Birtwistle's 'Panic' causing consternation at the Last Night of the Proms probably 25+ years ago now.

EDIT - rather like this, thanks. I'd got the Gabrieli likeness before reading the words.

EDIT2 - that would have been seriously fun to play too.
 
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briantrumpet

Timewaster
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