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[monkers]

Thus, even though some of the complaints are relatively trivial, the public interest test is increasingly being met.

Still trying hard to fudge the difference between the public interest, and of interest to the public. The public might be nosey bastards who love reading gossip and scandal, but they have no right to know about people's private lives, while victims of The Scum do have a right to privacy.

You hacks are variously stalkers, snoopers, long-lens and drone spies, and phone hackers. You collectively invade peoples private lives without a care.

Wherever there's an opportunity to out a person as gay, or bi, or trans, or whatever, you lot are there.

It started with a friend request on Facebook two years ago. Actor and director Jake Graf said he’d seen Hannah Winterbourne, a 31-year-old high-ranking captain in the British Army, on the news. She’d just been outed as transgender by The Sun, a UK newspaper, with the atrocious headline, “The Officer and the Gentlewoman.”

 

[Pale Rider]

Still trying hard to fudge the difference between the public interest, and of interest to the public. The public might be nosey bastards who love reading gossip and scandal, but they have no right to know about people's private lives, while victims of The Scum do have a right to privacy.

You hacks are variously stalkers, snoopers, long-lens and drone spies, and phone hackers. You collectively invade peoples private lives without a care.

Wherever there's an opportunity to out a person as gay, or bi, or trans, or whatever, you lot are there.

Dose that bitter diatribe also apply to Huw Edwards?

 

[monkers]

Dose that bitter diatribe also apply to Huw Edwards?

Not yet, Huw Edwards still has the presumption of innocence. Do you not understand the law at all?

 

[Pale Rider]

Not yet, Huw Edwards still has the presumption of innocence. Do you not understand the law at all?

This is not a matter of legality or illegality, it is a matter of acceptable behaviour for a man in his position.

Do you not understand society at all?

 

[monkers]

This is not a matter of legality or illegality, it is a matter of acceptable behaviour for a man in his position.

Do you not understand society at all?

Yes. There is an appetite for the gutter press, that doesn't make the industry gutter press legitimate. The case is of interest to the public, but the trial if there is one, will be in the public interest.

In the meantime Huw Edwards has the human right to the presumption of innocence. He has the right to a fair trial without the bias of the court of public opinion. You are advocating denying him those rights. I will not.

If it becomes the case the Huw Edwards has acted within the law, but public opinion is such that there is an outrage, then it becomes incumbent on government to produce a Bill for both houses to consider.

However our negative rights system means that criminal law can not be passed that legislates retrospectively, or that can be applied and enforced retroactively.

This is the properly democratic system.

Anything else is salacious nonsense from a scum press industry.

 

[Pale Rider]

Anything else is salacious nonsense from a scum press industry.

You need to stop trying to shoot the messenger.

The question this story raises is: Should a man in Edwards' position hold himself to a higher standard than 'just about legal'?

The answer from most people appears to be 'yes'.

Alleged bullying in the workplace also needs to be considered.

That very likely doesn't amount to illegality, but if the BBC finds he broke their employer rules, should Edwards continue to enjoy the benefits of his senior position in the publicly funded newsroom?

I reckon the majority of members of the public would say 'no'.

 

[monkers]

You need to stop trying to shoot the messenger.

The question this story raises is: Should a man in Edwards' position hold himself to a higher standard than 'just about legal'?

The answer from most people appears to be 'yes'.

Alleged bullying in the workplace also needs to be considered.

That very likely doesn't amount to illegality, but if the BBC finds he broke their employer rules, should Edwards continue to enjoy the benefits of his senior position in the publicly funded newsroom?

I reckon the majority of members of the public would say 'no'.

Bolleaux. That applies to situations where the recipient is not prepared to accept the truth of the message.

There is no truth in the message, since Huw Edwards has the presumption of innocence.

You are going all out with wrong steers in order to defend The Scum and this depraved industry.

You don't need to go further to convince me you are one of them.

 

[Pale Rider]

Bolleaux. That applies to situations where the recipient is not prepared to accept the truth of the message.

There is no truth in the message, since Huw Edwards has the presumption of innocence.

You are going all out with wrong steers in order to defend The Scum and this depraved industry.

You don't need to go further to convince me you are one of them.

Your obsession with the press has blinded you to the real story.

Has Huw Edwards behaved acceptably for a man in his position?

It's a simple enough question.

The wrong steers are by you and others who are trying to make this out to be a story press standards.

All you've proved is haters will always hate.

 

[Bromptonaut]

You need to stop trying to shoot the messenger.

The question this story raises is: Should a man in Edwards' position hold himself to a higher standard than 'just about legal'?

The answer from most people appears to be 'yes'.

Alleged bullying in the workplace also needs to be considered.

That very likely doesn't amount to illegality, but if the BBC finds he broke their employer rules, should Edwards continue to enjoy the benefits of his senior position in the publicly funded newsroom?

I reckon the majority of members of the public would say 'no'.

He is employed by the BBC to read the news and present other current affairs content. Why does that put in a position where a higher standard of behaviour applies than to you or me as ordinary retired or partly retired blokes?

If the public think he should then, particularly in the current political climate, the BBC might need to reflect on that but it doesn't change employment law etc.

If he's sent messages that cross the line into workplace bullying or threats then, again, it's just another work discipline case. Penalty might be nothing more than an interview without coffee. At the other end it's gross misconduct and he's out on his arse. Again, just like any other employee.

I suspect that he'll quietly retire once his health has stabilised but there's another cohort of the public who say he should return to work.

 

[monkers]

Your obsession with the press has blinded you to the real story.

Has Huw Edwards behaved acceptably for a man in his position?

It's a simple enough question.

The wrong steers are by you and others who are trying to make this out to be a story press standards.

All you've proved is haters will always hate.

It's not an obsession. It's an observation. An accurate observation. I have the lived experience of their brutality and I was not even the accused or a witness, they were just looking for salacious gossip because I had once worked in the same workplace as the accused. I didn't know anything but the bastards still stalked me, and filmed my coming and goings at my address. They even followed me around ASDA while I shopped.

 

[Julia9054]

Should a man in Edwards' position hold himself to a higher standard than 'just about legal'?

The Scum and this depraved industry.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

it is a matter of acceptable behaviour for a man in his position.

To be judged by the likes of this guy, a S*n editor, right? 👇

And I believe there was another tweet where he wrote:
“Dear diary, seems like the local sixth form girls have taken over the gym. Jackpot.”

Both were subsequently deleted, presumably because of the backlash over his public letching at school children. How come he wasn’t hounded into psychiatric care? Was he subjected to any HR reviews?

 

[Pale Rider]

He is employed by the BBC to read the news and present other current affairs content. Why does that put in a position where a higher standard of behaviour applies than to you or me as ordinary retired or partly retired blokes?

It's the public nature of his job, rightly or wrongly.

For most of us the question doesn't arise, not least because reaching/exceeding that acceptable standard is how we choose to behave.

It does appear Edwards needs a little help in this regard.

but there's another cohort of the public who say he should return to work.

Agreed, but Edwards' position of "it's all fine and dandy provided no one finds out", which is not acceptable.

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They even followed me around ASDA while I shopped.

I hope you told the hack he should push your trolley for you.

Anyway, let's get down to the nitty gritty.

Did you buy value or Heinz baked beans?

To be judged by the likes of this guy, a S*n editor, right?

No, The Sun doesn't make the judgment - there is no Sun editorial calling for Edwards to be sacked or given the knighthood, even if there were, it's only their comment.

The public, or at least most of them, are wise enough to form their own opinion.

You might have a point if the tale was rubbish, but it plainly isn't.

 

[monkers]

I hope you told the hack he should push your trolley for you.

Anyway, let's get down to the nitty gritty.

Did you buy value or Heinz baked beans?

I get it, you think harassment of the public by the press is OK, and can dismiss it with these kinds of comments.

There is no available defence of this scum industry and you know it; your commentary reflects it.

 

[Pale Rider]

How come he wasn’t hounded into psychiatric care?

Give over, Edwards only took to his bed because he was found out.

I get it, you think harassment of the public by the press is OK, and can dismiss it with these kinds of comments.

There is no available defence of this scum industry and you know it; your commentary reflects it.

What I think is your story, while interesting, has nothing to do with Huw Edwards.