Trail Hunting ban

[First Aspect]

I suspect (not scientific) that the same is true for deer. Given the Bambi influence, I'm surprised that they haven't got the same advocacy or pressure groups that badgers have, even if they haven't got the distinctive cute stripes on their faces.

Deer need to be kept out of reforestation projects and there are too many of them on our uplands for the available food. Their excess numbers means more of them are suffering than if there were fewer of them in total. Rather like humans, in fact.

And this suffering of the bambis is entirely man made.

Perhaps it's worse in Scotland, because their existence is a revenue stream from Americans wearing gauche hunting garb and who thinks supermarket malts are high quality.

I don't think there is a contradition between appreciating the rare occurrence of a deer visiting my garden and appreciating that there are too many deer.

 

[briantrumpet]

Deer need to be kept out of reforestation projects and there are too many of them on our uplands for the available food. Their excess numbers means more of them are suffering than if there were fewer of them in total. Rather like humans, in fact.

And this suffering of the bambis is entirely man made.

Perhaps it's worse in Scotland, because their existence is a revenue stream from Americans wearing gauche hunting garb and who thinks supermarket malts are high quality.

I don't think there is a contradition between appreciating the rare occurrence of a deer visiting my garden and appreciating that there are too many deer.

I wonder what species would make the first move to rule the world if suddenly there were no humans... bambi v. brock? Or wolves?? Or wild boar???

 

[First Aspect]

I wonder what species would make the first move to rule the world if suddenly there were no humans... bambi v. brock? Or wolves?? Or wild boar???

Dolphins.

("So long and thanks for all the fish.")

 

[briantrumpet]

Dolphins.

("So long and thanks for all the fish.")

A bit like Daleks, no?

But maybe I've got a terra firma bias.

 

[First Aspect]

A bit like Daleks, no?

But maybe I've got a terra firma bias.

Daleks aren't real, Brian.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Is the conclusion that dogs should be hunting deer?

 

[Ian H]

I suspect (not scientific) that the same is true for deer. Given the Bambi influence, I'm surprised that they haven't got the same advocacy or pressure groups that badgers have, even if they haven't got the distinctive cute stripes on their faces.

Deer have quiet protection from the wealthy búggers who shoot them.

 

[Ian H]

Is the conclusion that dogs should be hunting deer?

Different kind of dog. But a deer, unlike a fox, is edible, so you don't want it torn apart.

 

[briantrumpet]

Daleks aren't real, Brian.

😱

 

[Ian H]

I wonder what species would make the first move to rule the world if suddenly there were no humans... bambi v. brock? Or wolves?? Or wild boar???

I thought the mice were already in charge.

 

[First Aspect]

Is the conclusion that dogs should be hunting deer?

It depends if they are trained to do so humanely.

I also don't think it would be that effective. Having had a deer jump pretty much over my bike once and get about 150m in elevation up the adjacent hillside in about 20 seconds, my guess is we would need to breed dogs with more boing.

 

[BoldonLad]

I wonder what species would make the first move to rule the world if suddenly there were no humans... bambi v. brock? Or wolves?? Or wild boar???

My money is on the bugs 😊

 

[briantrumpet]

My money is on the bugs 😊

They'd certainly have no problem with stairs or gents' toilets, though getting carry-on cases into overhead lockers on easyJet aeroplanes would be a challenge.

That said, lots of humans struggle with that, so perhaps I should scrub that from my list of necessary competencies.

 

[Psamathe]

Re: Population Numbers
It's complex and much depends on what is limiting population size. Many factors and many of those are messed-up by humans and different species are limited by different factors.

And we can inadvertently damage animal populations by helping some. eg bird feeders help those species prepared to come close to houses and that can feed from them (eg blackbirds don't use hung bird feeders). But in helping a specific range of species we increase their numbers and they start out competing other species (eg that won't use bird feeders) for other resources eg nesting and roosting sites so in helping one species we damage others.

Gets very complex so very disappointing when politicians ignore the scientific advice from those who understand such complexities instead listening to lobbyists and political ideology. Result invariably further damage without solving anything.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

We have large woodland on our property which probably supports foxes, I know we have badgers and deer herds

We dont allow the local hunt to come onto our land, whether that be horses/riders or dogs.

Hunts have been known to ignore bans from land and just ride over it anyway
They have even been known to send people ahead and dismantle anything blocking their ability to do so