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tarric

Member
I see that Musk has now been imploring his followers to watch Yaxley-Lennon's 'documentary'.

The government needs to wake up and work out how to counterract the pernicious effect of the world's richest person promoting fascists.
Unfortunately far to many have been fooled into thinking that people like Trump, Musk, Farage etc these Billionaire's and Millionaire's are just like them and in power will ensure they are looked after, their deluded the only thing these people think about is themselves and just how many more Billions or Millions they can add to their bank balances. In a saying that is wrongfully attributed to Samuel Langhorne Clemens, "Why is it easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled”, because to admit that you have been fooled, is to admit a failing, such as gullibility, naivety, stupidity. It is a blow to one’s ego.
 

icowden

Squire
I see that Musk has now been imploring his followers to watch Yaxley-Lennon's 'documentary'.
The government needs to wake up and work out how to counterract the pernicious effect of the world's richest person promoting fascists.
Much as I hate banning things, I'm starting to see a strong argument for just removing access to "x". It isn't balanced, it isn't well run and it isn't useful any more. It's now been reduced to a propaganda site.
 

multitool

Pharaoh
Much as I hate banning things, I'm starting to see a strong argument for just removing access to "x". It isn't balanced, it isn't well run and it isn't useful any more. It's now been reduced to a propaganda site.

I rarely visit the site now, not only because it is as described by you, but also because it is easy to get sucked into a polarised political and sociological position. It is not a healthy way to spend time.

I'm not sure how a ban could be brought into law or, indeed, enacted.
 
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icowden

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I'm not sure how a ban could be brought into law or, indeed, enacted.
Government just blocks the IP address. Many southern states have done something similar for Pornhub. China allows very few western IP addresses in. The problem is that it opens the door to the totalitarian blocking of sites the government doesn't like.
 
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Rusty Nails

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Government just blocks the IP address. Many southern states have done something similar for Pornhub. China allows very few western IP addresses in. The problem is that it opens the door to the totalitarian blocking of sites the government doesn't like.

Pointless talking about it. It will not happen.

If people are dull enough to access it they are too dumb to understand when they are being led, and/or arrogant enough to believe that anything they write on there will make any difference.

For better or for worse the genie is out of the bag bottle (thanks @icowden :blush:) with social media.
 
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Psamathe

Active Member
  • Much as I hate banning things, I'm starting to see a strong argument for just removing access to "x". It isn't balanced, it isn't well run and it isn't useful any more. It's now been reduced to a propaganda site.
I rarely visit the site now, not only because it is as described by you, but also because it is easy to get sucked into a polarised political and sociological position. It is not a healthy way to spend time.

I'm not sure how a ban could be brought into law or, indeed, enacted.
Government just blocks the IP address. Many southern states have done something similar for Pornhub. China allows very few western IP addresses in. The problem is that it opens the door to the totalitarian blocking of sites the government doesn't like.
I suspect a ban in the UK could be legally implemented under the UK Gov.'s Online Safety Act which seems so broad and undefined that all they'd have to do is declare "incitement" and sorted. But from a personal perspective:
  • I think a lot of "Social Media" is having a negative impact on society (It could be positive but in pracive it's negative, maybe the "for billionaire profits" operation is causing its implementation/operation to fail society).
  • suspect any such block would be counter productive "arming" the far-right rather than restricting it.
  • I think Space Karen is his own worst enemy and his "calls" just highlight weakness rather than encourage converts to his viewpoint.
  • I think Space Karen's posts just progress his platform's demise, encouraging more to abandon it for eg BlueSky.
It is disappointing that many companies still feel they need a presence on Xitter, even when it now seems little more that a far right propaganda site furthering its oligarch owner's personal political extremism. Similarly I can't understand quite why so many individuals still visit just to be fed Musk's personal unhinged madness.

But even though fairly straightforward technologically to ban the site (I don't see people accessing it through overseas VPNs as an problem), such a ban would almost certainly be worse than the site itself as it would paly into the far right's own propoganda as well as set a crucial precedent.

I can see justifiable reasons for it to be blocked eg as in Brazil who did play things very well - their justification for blocks were very justified and not based on that the site had become too skewed to being a propoganda outlet for the owners extremism.

Ian
 

C R

Über Member
See also worms in cans, elephants in rooms, rabbits in hats, and birds in bushes. You can have fun with mix'n'match.

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multitool

Pharaoh
I was listening to Rory Stewart yesterday talking about Elon Musk. He referred to Musk as "a fascist".

Wonder how they got that one past the lawyers. Pretty scary that he thinks that.
 

C R

Über Member
I was listening to Rory Stewart yesterday talking about Elon Musk. He referred to Musk as "a fascist".

Wonder how they got that one past the lawyers. Pretty scary that he thinks that.

What is it that you find scary, that Stewart thinks that Musk is a fascist or the actual rise of fascism in the last decade and a half?
 
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