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HMS_Dave

Regular
The current Polo is the same size as a Mk 1 Golf. Manufacturers are much better at optimising inside space but the size of old cars is really jarring when you see them now - a Granada doesn't look like a big car anymore and a Capri seems tiny.

I used to have an old 2.8 Granada. Great car, huge boot space but oh did it rot. Many improvements made in that department these days in most instances. I also had a Reliant Scimitar that I had a crash in. Someone drove into the side of me. Considering that car is a canoe with scaffolding I did alright.
 

Badger_Boom

Member
Am I the only one that never found Musk, or Jobs for that matter, worthy of their cult status?

At least Jobs didn't launch his old car into space.
 

Psamathe

Well-Known Member
The biggest risk is that the Martians realise Musk wants to invade and decide to get their retaliation in first.
Nah. They'll give it the "once over" Ummm, battery, electric motor, bits of metal bolted together ... basic entry level technology. Our newborn Martians do more complex stuff with Meccano. No threat there.

Ian
 

multitool

Pharaoh
I'm sure Tesla share holders are delighted that Musk has been fannying about onstage with a chainsaw, throwing Nazi salutes, and promoting European far-right political parties.

9%. Oops.
 

multitool

Pharaoh
I see that the recent new owner of the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos, has now banned anything but right wing views from opinion pieces in the paper.

So that is two oligarchs controlling two huge branches of media and limiting free speech.
 
I thought the problem with X was that it was now a free for all in which no speech was limited? It certainly wasn't a bastion of free speech before Musk. There was aggressive moderating of fairly mainstream feminist views for example. Before the election the Washington Post were about to endorse Harris as president before Bezos nixed it, so they weren't neutral.

Most outlets aren't truly publishing a wide range of views; they take a certain political position, whether it's overtly in the editorials or in a more hidden way via moderation of posts. It's daft to pretend they were somehow independent and now suddenly aren't.
 

multitool

Pharaoh
This is true.

But most outlets are owned by very rich people who promote political views that work to their own interests. In the UK there are no left wing papers.

The irony is that the fake push for 'free speech' is coming from the hard right. They want the freedom to say divisive things with impunity, whilst actively stifling opposition.

Personally, I think this is unhealthy. It may have always been like this but the key is to point it out.
 

monkers

Legendary Member
This is true.

But most outlets are owned by very rich people who promote political views that work to their own interests. In the UK there are no left wing papers.

The irony is that the fake push for 'free speech' is coming from the hard right. They want the freedom to say divisive things with impunity, whilst actively stifling opposition.

Personally, I think this is unhealthy. It may have always been like this but the key is to point it out.

If we use Electoral Calculus as a reasonable model, there are ultra-right wing authoritarian parties in the UK. Labour have swung from centre left to centre right. Lib Dems are also rightside of the origin. Greens are between the origin and centre left being deemed further left due to the social libertarianism.

Why do people vote to have their social freedoms curtailed, and then thereafter moan about ''the nanny state''?
 

CXRAndy

Senior Member
In the UK there are no left wing papers
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The Guardian
The independent
The Standard
 
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