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monkers

Legendary Member
So the guardian and independent aren't left wing?

In your moronically deficient world view, anything that isn't ultra-right and ultra-authoritarian is left wing. Many road accidents especially in motor sport are attributed to target fixation. You experience the equivalent of targe fixation in life - anything that isn't you is the hazard or toxic.
 

CXRAndy

Senior Member
The guardian
In your moronically deficient world view, anything that isn't ultra-right and ultra-authoritarian is left wing. Many road accidents especially in motor sport are attributed to target fixation. You experience the equivalent of targe fixation in life - anything that isn't you is the hazard or toxic.

Your raging outrage is so funny 🤣

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monkers

Legendary Member
The guardian


Your raging outrage is so funny 🤣

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You can't even distinguish between rage and weariness. You are just a feeble-minded tiresome little troll who in every post fails to add value.

The claims of great wealth are frankly boring and boorish. You spend so much time enjoying trolling here because, you said little man, this is your actual worth. You are probably just a basement 'artiste' who just trolls between episodes of watching trans porn on the internet - a true w.anker in both senses of the word.
 

CXRAndy

Senior Member
You can't even distinguish between rage and weariness. You are just a feeble-minded tiresome little troll who in every post fails to add value.

The claims of great wealth are frankly boring and boorish. You spend so much time enjoying trolling here because, you said little man, this is your actual worth. You are probably just a basement 'artiste' who just trolls between episodes of watching trans porn on the internet - a true w.anker in both senses of the word.

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More numbers in for January:-
  • Tesla shares down 10%,
  • Tesla European Sales down 50%,
  • Tesla UK sales down 45%.
  • All other EV manufacturers sales up 33%
If only we had some sort of clue as to why?
European sales are partly down due to regulations changes, multiple european countries stopped or changed the subsidies they give when buying an new car. Secondly car manufacurers haven't lisened very much to their audience as most demand if for mid-range cars and most eletric cars are either below orabove that, a gap all the new chinese manufacturer happily fill, helped by the fact that on EV battery production China is ahead of us.(in terms of mass production batteries vs cost, think Tesla is still the most advanced.(but i haven't red up on that so i could be dated)
Off course Musks behavior has done damage to Tesla. Not enough to kill the brand but it's not helpfull.
They have announced a new smaller Tesla. It won't be aimed at techphobes though. Tesla is still a world leader in EVs. Their software development is unparallelled, but they have failed to deliver on autonomous driving and interest is dwindling in FSD as most countries won't allow it to be used. They still provide regular software updates and listen to their users when developing new features.
About time, but the question is more can they produce enough, and are they on time, today's demand it not tommorow's demand.

The old school like VW are incredibly pedestrian in comparison. My ID4 Pro 2023 edition will not be getting significant software updates because they have updated the software and screen tech for the ID2025 and have no plans to retrofit the new screens / processors. So that's a new £50k EV rendered software end of life in just 2 years.
That's crazy and absolutely unnessacary, look at how many devices other manufacturers can support at one time.
Smaller cars are definitely part of the US car market, and are growing, ford did OK with a number of their mid to smaller models but large cars still dominate the market there. Mind you it puts in mind how much Europeans really valued small cars in times gone and how small cars today would have been rather on the larger side then. The Mini for example and a number of Renaults and Peugeots and VWs of that era compared to today.
Exactly why the cybertruck is sold there and not here, apart from regulations.



This is true.

But most outlets are owned by very rich people who promote political views that work to their own interests. In the UK there are no left wing papers.

The irony is that the fake push for 'free speech' is coming from the hard right. They want the freedom to say divisive things with impunity, whilst actively stifling opposition.

Personally, I think this is unhealthy. It may have always been like this but the key is to point it out.
It is unhealthy i absolutely agree, however when Twitter was'nt X/owned by musk yet if somebody complained the general tone ''too left'' was ''it an private company you can move to a other platform if you don't like it.''
I mean if we as a society on the whole think moving to a other platform is the solution to solve hard right or hard left problems, where gonna be left out at some point.

I don't really know a soluttion but everyone moving to an isle where they are surrounded by poeple why agree with them doesn't sound like the best idea.
 

icowden

Squire
I don't really know a soluttion but everyone moving to an isle where they are surrounded by poeple why agree with them doesn't sound like the best idea.
But equally Musk's idea of having a platform with no safeguards is a very bad idea. He failed to understand why blue ticks were important as a measure that someone is who they say they are. He failed to understand why some hate speech needed to be restricted. No-one is suggesting an echo bubble, but you do need to have safeguards.
 

icowden

Squire
So the guardian and independent aren't left wing?

Well, no. The Independent is now a website only and is er... independent. The clue is in the name. It's essentially centerist.
The Guardian is perceived as being left wing, but is centre-left - more associated with Lib Dems than working men and the unions.

Left Wing tracts would include the Daily Mirror, the Morning Star (not the Daily Star which doesn't have a wing - or news) and the Socialist Worker. The Mirror is owned by Retch and is not as left wing as it used to be.

In contrast you have the Express, Mail, Telegraph, Times and Spectator which are all right wing.
 

CXRAndy

Senior Member
So there are left wing newspapers in the UK

In the UK there are no left wing papers
Well, no. The Independent is now a website only and is er... independent. The clue is in the name. It's essentially centerist.
The Guardian is perceived as being left wing, but is centre-left - more associated with Lib Dems than working men and the unions.

Left Wing tracts would include the Daily Mirror, the Morning Star (not the Daily Star which doesn't have a wing - or news) and the Socialist Worker. The Mirror is owned by Retch and is not as left wing as it used to be.

In contrast you have the Express, Mail, Telegraph, Times and Spectator which are all right wing.
 
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