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Pinno718

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Some detail (favourable to the US)

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Some detail (favourable to the US)

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I assume that's from the now-junked Russian 28-point plan. Well, junked, until it's un-junked, because Gramps has forgotten what day of the week it is.
 
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Pinno718

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In the Trump thread when I'd been away for a few days so didn't trawl through many pages of long posts ...

That thing about keeping up at the back?
I just added a little bit more detail, so not really a repetition of sorts. Anyway, it was said in jest, so chill.
 

BoldonLad

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From the leaked deal some quite unbelievable clauses eg Clause 14

So Europe to put-up $100 bn against US $0 yet US to take 50% of the profits from reconstruction and investment. Frozen Russian assets from Europe to be in vested in US-Russia investment vehicle (again US takes the profit).

Who wrote that clause I wonder, Lord Houchen, perhaps? 😊
 
I'm no historian, but is this how ceasefires work?

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Pinno718

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At the risk of elevating the proxy war, I am becoming more and more suspect that these operations are not 100% Ukrainian.

You're another one. 🙄
I have posted many links to saboteurs. The saboteurs are getting more confident (repeat point) as the military is occupied elsewhere (another repeated point) and spread thin (yes, I have mentioned this).
The saboteurs are the one's targeting railways (r) as the rail network is instrumental in delivering fuel and supplies (r).

As n aside, I see a theme here:
Now people may be put off by Youtubers/social media convinced that these individuals content is not worthy of say main stream media/press but there's are a growing number which offer higher quality, referenced material. Jake Broe references every comment for example and I often cross reference that by picking up the article or news that was referenced through say, The Moscow Times, The Kyiv Post and the Kyiv Independent, Times of India (who interestingly seem to be following this conflict quite closely) for example. And yes, I know these news outlets are pro Ukraine but unless you go to Russia and Ukraine and see for yourself, you are guaranteed a bias. That bias can be factually based.
Plus I won't simply post unreferenced material - I tend to migrate towards the Youtubers that I find less hyperbolic and measured and often report on events in a much more realistic and analytical way than mainstream,
Having sat watched the BBC news about the peace 'deal' currently on the table last night, I was astonished about how many things seemed to be glossed over or omitted completely. Detail that is fundamental to the overall picture.
I also go to Politico, Propublica and other sources so I am not nailed to YT content.
I get the feeling that when I post a YT video, it's often dismissed or glossed over but within that video, you can see the links the articles from where that commentator/vlogger (call them what you like), you will get the source. You can then search the source yourself to verify it, which is what I often do.
I posted a multiple set of screen shots on the Donald Dump thread. The author of those comments is a very highly regarded investigative journalist who has been investigating and following the Epstein story for years yet posters on here simply dismissed it as some random persons pov on social media.
 

Pblakeney

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You're another one. 🙄
I have posted many links to saboteurs. The saboteurs are getting more confident (repeat point) as the military is occupied elsewhere (another repeated point) and spread thin (yes, I have mentioned this).
The saboteurs are the one's targeting railways (r) as the rail network is instrumental in delivering fuel and supplies (r).

As n aside, I see a theme here:
Now people may be put off by Youtubers/social media convinced that these individuals content is not worthy of say main stream media/press but there's are a growing number which offer higher quality, referenced material. Jake Broe references every comment for example and I often cross reference that by picking up the article or news that was referenced through say, The Moscow Times, The Kyiv Post and the Kyiv Independent, Times of India (who interestingly seem to be following this conflict quite closely) for example. And yes, I know these news outlets are pro Ukraine but unless you go to Russia and Ukraine and see for yourself, you are guaranteed a bias. That bias can be factually based.
Plus I won't simply post unreferenced material - I tend to migrate towards the Youtubers that I find less hyperbolic and measured and often report on events in a much more realistic and analytical way than mainstream,
Having sat watched the BBC news about the peace 'deal' currently on the table last night, I was astonished about how many things seemed to be glossed over or omitted completely. Detail that is fundamental to the overall picture.
I also go to Politico, Propublica and other sources so I am not nailed to YT content.
I get the feeling that when I post a YT video, it's often dismissed or glossed over but within that video, you can see the links the articles from where that commentator/vlogger (call them what you like), you will get the source. You can then search the source yourself to verify it, which is what I often do.
I posted a multiple set of screen shots on the Donald Dump thread. The author of those comments is a very highly regarded investigative journalist who has been investigating and following the Epstein story for years yet posters on here simply dismissed it as some random persons pov on social media.

The other end of the stick is over there ->
I am querying who the saboteurs are so they can get the praise they deserve while acknowledging that they 100% want to remain anonymous.
 
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