War with Russia
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Pross
Senior Member
Kick them out of the Commonwealth Games - that'll learn them.
Pblakeney
Guru
Woah now, they won't go that far.
Pinno718
Veteran
And Eurovision.
briantrumpet
Squire
As an aside, I was surprised to read that India is insisting all smartphones must have a government controlled app installed. Seems kinda bad.
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Milzy
Senior Member
You can get untraceable phones on the dark web though. I’m sure the average peasant won’t mind the government app but the serious criminals won’t be using those phones. The authorities like to target the easy law abiding citizens though. You know, arrest a few OAP’s on a peaceful protest, that kind of thing.
Psamathe
Guru
India is more constrained than some copuntries with mobiles. When I visited technically foreigners were "limited" about getting a local SIM (ie you were not meant to). I managed to get one but then received periodic text messages from the Gov. about how I would soon be disconnected (which I wasn't).
They also have a habit of switching the networks off when they don't want info getting out. whilst I was up by the Jamu & Kashmir border one day no moving network (data) - they'd switched off the network for at least the day (I left before it was switched back on).
Quite a few things I'd describe as more authoritarian eg although most people don't notice you can only stay in hotels approved to take foreigners. When you check-in the hotel has to report loads of details to the Police within 24 hrd (Form C system), where you arrived from, visa details, where you are heading on to, etc. Police regularly check hotels and if they have not fulfilled the Form C requirements they'll lost their approval to take foreigners.
Ian H
Squire
Don't encourage him!
Pinno718
Veteran
It would be better that BT had read some of my posts as I have gone into much detail regarding Russia's financial situation but for some reason, my sources aren't as credible as his or he's suffering acute tl;dr/cba.
I will be sending him a very curt PM shortly and make no mistake.
Anyhoo. the above ^. Not news to me.
The quoted piece does not include an income tax rise, printing Rubles, industries connected to producing military hardware going or heading towards bankruptcy (and those industries are run by corrupt officials who have been embezzling govt. contracts), banks are in dire straits. It goes on.
This is why Putin is talking tough on Europe - as if Europe is going to capitulate based on his empty threats (see ICBM test failures, of which there have been 2 of recently, weak air defences, This just does not convey 'superpower' in the slightest). It's also why he's going cap in hand to Dodgy Modi. Plus former allies - ex soviet states loyalty are waning. They are also struggling to get hydrocarbons, Chechnya is being bombed by Ukraine. Their leader Kadyrov, Putin's puppet, is apparently terminally ill. Russia is not getting help from Xi Ping Pong for free and those loans are increasing as interest rates soar. Apparently, insurance against default is a huge area of territory of Russia being turned into a province of China. Wouldn't that be ironic? I think the Chinese quietly know Russia is a lame duck.
Putin is both outwardly posturing to the world but inwardly panicking. He's a cornered dog. The oligarch's are realising they may be about to loose their millions and Putin may end up with his head on a stick.
All of the above is referenced in previous posts.
C R
Guru
All of that is true, but doesn't necessarily forecast a happy ending for Ukraine.
Pinno718
Veteran
Care to elaborate? (i'm not being sarcy).
If it ends up in cessation of the conflict?
There are funds for the re-building of Ukraine and no, sorry yankee doodles, you ain't getting your grubby mitts on them - Europe is not stupid.
Without Putin, or at least, with a totally broke and toothless Putin, Ukraine can look to joining NATO (but ironically pointless).
I see this conflict has turned into a slow extraction of Russia's teeth. Teeth in old mouths do not grow back.
America would be pivotal in this but it's leader is a donkey, the leaders footmen are Russian allies/agents/corrupt estate agents and perhaps, the USA will suffer a similar financial crisis to Russia. You can't play Poker if your chips are soggy.
Imagine the (historically) two biggest super powers succumbing to internal corruption and hegemony.
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Pinno718
Veteran
Who would come for the remaining 75%? How? How would a Russia who's economy has collapsed take the remaining 75%? How would a Russia who's military is being shredded and loosing fighting men like nothing we (or they) expected take the other 75%? Explain.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/russianOAP'soccupyUkraineusingtractorsandpitchforks
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Milzy
Senior Member
Propaganda. They don’t even risk their best forces getting hit. They keep their best tech safe far deep in Russia. They send criminals & foreign soldiers into the meat grinder.
Arms dealers get rich. Our government & Russias are making money from the military industrial complex. It’s taken years to gain what they set out to do. It’s still slow progress, unless they’re pushed back soon there’s no reason why they can’t keep taking more land.
