War with Russia

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Pinno718

Veteran
The full story here @Pblakeney et al. Including the not so positive bits but also the unbreakable spirit of the Ukrainians.
Seems that as Russia cannot defend it's skies nor it's ports and nor can they win on the battlefield, the only thing left is terrorism. i.e hitting civilian targets.
Jake Broe is a realist. I find him the best of the YT vloggers. Business Basics glosses over things and keeps holding the US in high regard, the Military show is technical waffle with ad nauseum repeats of scenes which often do not reflect the narration and does not have enough referencing.
Jason Jay Stuart is very opinionated and I don't know how many times he's stated that the Russian economy is collapsing. He used to vlog with no referencing. I don't know if he's started doing it because I pulled him up but it's still lacking and his masters degree means he goes into far too much detail which, whilst it may seem relevant and well researched, does not always present tenable cause and effect.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZjSjj_5Pog
 

Ian H

Squire
In The Economist -
A HUGE CORRUPTION scandal is turning into Ukraine’s biggest crisis since Russian tanks bore down on Kyiv in early 2022. President Volodymyr Zelensky is said by sources in government to have been “floored” by the scale of the charges made against members of his closest circle. He has already moved to distance himself from some of those so far named in the probe. Ukraine’s parliament is due to vote on November 18th on the dismissal of Svitlana Hrinchuk, the energy minister, and Herman Halushchenko, the justice minister. But the coming days are likely to be dramatic, with key players understood to be urging the president to purge his most controversial lieutenants in order to save himself and the state.

The investigations that caused this uproar are a Herculean feat by the country’s anti-corruption bodies, which overcame stiff resistance from other state bodies throughout the 15-month probe. Using secret recordings of conversations in flats and back offices around Kyiv, they documented a scheme to embezzle at least $100m from Energoatom, the state nuclear company. The details are excruciating. Detectives found a golden toilet bowl in an apartment belonging to Timur Mindich, a former business partner and close associate of the president. Mr Mindich is accused of co-organising the criminal scheme. He fled the country mere hours before detectives from the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) arrived at his home, suggesting he may have been tipped off...
 

Bazzer

Über Member
Russia's war economy is slowing down as supplier of tanks and civilian equipment such as freight wagons, lays off 10% of staff, with some divisions potentially losing up to 50% of staff.
 

Pinno718

Veteran
Russia's war economy is slowing down as supplier of tanks and civilian equipment such as freight wagons, lays off 10% of staff, with some divisions potentially losing up to 50% of staff.

Yes and a Silicone manufacturing company is closing down in January as businesses struggle with loans as interest rates are very high.

Through private donations, the Czechs raised $700k and bought a Flamingo missile from Ukraine to which the Ukrainian company honoured this purchase with another Flamingo missile thereby acquiring 2 of them.
A single Dutch individual bought ammunition and 700 guns for the Ukrainian army.
The Lithuaninas donated 7000 glass insulators (these are damaged during bombing). The insulators simply insulate electrical lines.
Ukraine secures gas line through Greece to help get them through the winter.
France is considering supplying Ukraine with Rafale jets in a 10 year deal.
 
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I'm not even going to bother with quotes from this report as it is full of contradictions and BS.
Who is at fault? The BBC, the US, Ukraine, Putin, a combination, all four? Don't care. Peace as outlined in that report isn't going to happen.

Zelensky will not accept anything that Putin will agree to, and Putin will not accept* anything that Zelensky will agree to.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgdgrqwnq9o

*Well, Putin might but it will be short lived.
 
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If this is the actual proposal, and not just noise, I'd expect Ukraine to tell them to fuck off: the idea that you'd voluntarily disarm the country that's been invaded would basically be giving Putin the invitation to try again in a few years.

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If this is the actual proposal, and not just noise, I'd expect Ukraine to tell them to fuck off: the idea that you'd voluntarily disarm the country that's been invaded would basically be giving Putin the invitation to try again in a few years.

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The proposal as I've read it is exactly what you'd expect from someone completely stupid and disconnected from the real world.
"Why don't you all just put down your weapons and play like nice boys?"
 

Pinno718

Veteran
The proposal as I've read it is exactly what you'd expect from someone completely stupid and disconnected from the real world.
"Why don't you all just put down your weapons and play like nice boys?"

The proposal is from someone who is compromised.

***Thread crossover alert***
The not so far fetched theory is that Epstein built up compromising material on many people. He was working for the Israeli's and advising Russians. There is confirmation of this through the recent email dump plus his own brother speaking very coherently and very rationally about this. Epstein had said that in 2016, he could 'shut the campaign (for presidency) down in an instant.
Israel has been given everything they want from Trump's administration - including the ego massaging notion of turning Gaza into a resort.
The Russians and the Israeli's both have 'kompromat' on Trump and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who supplied the material.
Trump was deeply involved with the mob in NY in the 70's. 80's and 90's. You couldn't do real estate in NY without being tied to the mob. So he learnt a thing or two. And the reason Epstein did not reveal some sh*t about Trump was that he had said that Trump was a dangerous individual with no scruples (yes, the irony) and that he thought Trump would have him killed.
 
The proposal is from someone who is compromised.

***Thread crossover alert***
The not so far fetched theory is that Epstein built up compromising material on many people. He was working for the Israeli's and advising Russians. There is confirmation of this through the recent email dump plus his own brother speaking very coherently and very rationally about this. Epstein had said that in 2016, he could 'shut the campaign (for presidency) down in an instant.
Israel has been given everything they want from Trump's administration - including the ego massaging notion of turning Gaza into a resort.
The Russians and the Israeli's both have 'kompromat' on Trump and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who supplied the material.
Trump was deeply involved with the mob in NY in the 70's. 80's and 90's. You couldn't do real estate in NY without being tied to the mob. So he learnt a thing or two. And the reason Epstein did not reveal some sh*t about Trump was that he had said that Trump was a dangerous individual with no scruples (yes, the irony) and that he thought Trump would have him killed.

Compromised and stupid.
 

Pross

Senior Member
The proposal is from someone who is compromised.

***Thread crossover alert***
The not so far fetched theory is that Epstein built up compromising material on many people. He was working for the Israeli's and advising Russians. There is confirmation of this through the recent email dump plus his own brother speaking very coherently and very rationally about this. Epstein had said that in 2016, he could 'shut the campaign (for presidency) down in an instant.
Israel has been given everything they want from Trump's administration - including the ego massaging notion of turning Gaza into a resort.
The Russians and the Israeli's both have 'kompromat' on Trump and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who supplied the material.
Trump was deeply involved with the mob in NY in the 70's. 80's and 90's. You couldn't do real estate in NY without being tied to the mob. So he learnt a thing or two. And the reason Epstein did not reveal some sh*t about Trump was that he had said that Trump was a dangerous individual with no scruples (yes, the irony) and that he thought Trump would have him killed.

Would love this to be true, not just to finish Trump but if there really is some blackmail behind US 'foreign policy' having it exposed might get them to start doing the right thing again as they are no longer being controlled.
 
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