What is a woman?

["slow horse" aka "another sam"]

And yet the only person having a public unravelling (again) is you. It's becoming a Naca Christmas tradition.

Did someone mention Christmas traditions? (Spoiler alert: ends with a real heartwarmer.)

I'd cheerfully lock you in a cell.

Operation Let Them Speak continues to show great promise.

This is a joke in GC circles, highlighting how we very much want our critics to enjoy all the free speech necessary to let the undecideds make up their minds (whilst they simply want us mute). As has been mentioned elsewhere, when people actually educate themselves on the issues involved, they usually end up what for the sake of convenience I'll call TERFs.

I'm not following random link to some man hater like Stock...

Sounds... blinkered. I for one am happy to follow links into the heart of gendermentalism to ensure I don't live in an echo chamber.

TLDR.

Despite my defence of iteration upthread, and love of words in general, I do think certain economies can be made. Hence my personal decision not to address everything thrown my way. Let 'em think they've won that round if it makes 'em happy.

I'm going to wait until I can read the blinkered, adulterated version across the road.

What I just heard: Rusty lurks at NACF. I'll take the win.

Blinkered is a great word for describing so many of my fellow small gameters when it comes to this issue. As my wife has observed, men as a sex class don't get it. She doesn't mean all men; unlike my detractors, I try to give credit where it is due – even to my muse Mein Tool, whom I once awarded Post Of The Day (where do you think YACF got the idea for that?) But by and large it takes more empathy than they can muster, unless they're triggered by the ludicrous examples shown in sport, i.e., the really obvious stuff.

 

[AndyRM]

So... Are you just trying to get traffic onto your weird website?

Or what's the game here?

Is it just a narcissism thing?

A cry for help maybe?

 

[Rusty Nails]

What I just heard: Rusty lurks at NACF. I'll take the win.

Blinkered is a great word for describing so many of my fellow small gameters when it comes to this issue. As my wife has observed, men as a sex class don't get it. She doesn't mean all men; unlike my detractors, I try to give credit where it is due – even to my muse Mein Tool, whom I once awarded Post Of The Day (where do you think YACF got the idea for that?) But by and large it takes more empathy than they can muster, unless they're triggered by the ludicrous examples shown in sport, i.e., the really obvious stuff.

That's not much of a win. I'm so sad that I lurk on several cycling forums and one car forum but, because life is too short, cba with the hassle of joining in, except for the occasional sale or purchase of bike parts.

I've never bought anything from NACF.

 

[monkers]

Did someone mention Christmas traditions? (Spoiler alert: ends with a real heartwarmer.)


Operation Let Them Speak continues to show great promise.

This is a joke in GC circles, highlighting how we very much want our critics to enjoy all the free speech necessary to let the undecideds make up their minds (whilst they simply want us mute). As has been mentioned elsewhere, when people actually educate themselves on the issues involved, they usually end up what for the sake of convenience I'll call TERFs.


Sounds... blinkered. I for one am happy to follow links into the heart of gendermentalism to ensure I don't live in an echo chamber.


Despite my defence of iteration upthread, and love of words in general, I do think certain economies can be made. Hence my personal decision not to address everything thrown my way. Let 'em think they've won that round if it makes 'em happy.


What I just heard: Rusty lurks at NACF. I'll take the win.

Blinkered is a great word for describing so many of my fellow small gameters when it comes to this issue. As my wife has observed, men as a sex class don't get it. She doesn't mean all men; unlike my detractors, I try to give credit where it is due – even to my muse Mein Tool, whom I once awarded Post Of The Day (where do you think YACF got the idea for that?) But by and large it takes more empathy than they can muster, unless they're triggered by the ludicrous examples shown in sport, i.e., the really obvious stuff.

Keep posting, you're doing great, so great, everyone will know you are the greatest.

 

["slow horse" aka "another sam"]

Then I want qigong chimp to say something surreal or at least 'God bless us, everyone!' like the phatasmagorically enigmatic little Tiny Tim that he is.

More of this please, if you're taking requests.

 

["slow horse" aka "another sam"]

Brilliant thread over on Mumsnet, both for Pridespotters and trainspotters. I'm dropping you at the top of page three for the latter, but you can view the OP by clicking on "show more". I realise some won't want to go there, but for those who aren't afraid to possibly be exposed to different points of view:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens...you-because-you-dont-believe-that-twaw?page=3

Briefly, a woman wanted to know how much a train company had spent to paint a train in 'Pride' colours; the company refused to tell her, even going so far as to trawl through her social media accounts to discredit her; the Information Commissioner's Office agreed with her:

https://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKICO/2024/305669.pdf

 

[Fab Foodie]

What's the gender-neutral version of 'handbags'...is it still handbags?

 

[Cirrus]

What's the gender-neutral version of 'handbags'...is it still handbags?

Doubt if it’d be a fanny pack.

 

[AndyRM]

Brilliant thread over on Mumsnet, both for Pridespotters and trainspotters. I'm dropping you at the top of page three for the latter, but you can view the OP by clicking on "show more". I realise some won't want to go there, but for those who aren't afraid to possibly be exposed to different points of view:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens...you-because-you-dont-believe-that-twaw?page=3

Briefly, a woman wanted to know how much a train company had spent to paint a train in 'Pride' colours; the company refused to tell her, even going so far as to trawl through her social media accounts to discredit her; the Information Commissioner's Office agreed with her:

https://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKICO/2024/305669.pdf

It's not really a brilliant thread.

Nobody on it knows anything about how much livery costs.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Can't recall if I've posted this before. As a RSBB, I've no skin in the game. But as a generally liberal person I don't see why people shouldn't live however they want (within the law) as long as it doesn't negatively affect others (I appreciate that can be a contentious area).
I also appreciate my naiveness and lack of expertise in this area and my general science-based background.
So, why can't everyone be registered at birth with their Genetic type, XX, XY, XXY, KKK and all the variations that biology produces. Just as a matter of record.
From there on in, allow people to be raised/live whatever gender they want to be (as long as it doesn't infringe others liberties under the law).
IF some issue arises where somebodies 'biological sex' is a matter of import, at least it's there for the record.

It's one of those areas where perfect becomes the enemy of good.....

 

[matticus]

So, why can't everyone be registered at birth with their Genetic type, XX, XY, XXY, KKK and all the variations that biology produces. Just as a matter of record.
From there on in, allow people to be raised/live whatever gender they want to be (as long as it doesn't infringe others liberties under the law).

It sounds so simple, doesn't it?!?

 

[spen666]

Not sure the forum and the Supreme Court are 100% in agreement

 

[CXRAndy]

Not sure the forum and the Supreme Court are 100% in agreement

Still got some real diehards.

Reality is setting in, KJK had a open air session at speakers corner and wasn't stoned to death by weird mask wearing men.

Many organisations have already changed policy re private spaces and toilets for women.

Monkers is far too invested to admit the woman means adult human female. She'll waffle on

Most others have given up and either can't be bothered or are accepting the war is over

 

[monkers]

Can't recall if I've posted this before. As a RSBB, I've no skin in the game. But as a generally liberal person I don't see why people shouldn't live however they want (within the law) as long as it doesn't negatively affect others (I appreciate that can be a contentious area).
I also appreciate my naiveness and lack of expertise in this area and my general science-based background.
So, why can't everyone be registered at birth with their Genetic type, XX, XY, XXY, KKK and all the variations that biology produces. Just as a matter of record.
From there on in, allow people to be raised/live whatever gender they want to be (as long as it doesn't infringe others liberties under the law).
IF some issue arises where somebodies 'biological sex' is a matter of import, at least it's there for the record.



That will be because on these forums there are those few people who demonstrate that they enjoy the cruelty of ridicule and ritual humiliation of others. Anti-discriminations laws manage to put a stop to it. Anybody who laughs at children with (for example) Downs Syndrome are quickly identified by whatever term you wish to call them - ''utter bellends or what you will'' - yet I'm sure you remember that abusive terms often applied to people with Downs Syndrome.

The chants against trans people is ''look at the biology'', but with recognition that it isn't fair to look at the biology as a just reason to discriminate against those people with Downs Syndrome.

Women who have a diagnosis of psychopathic tendencies are not prevented from using women's toilets - so clearly it is not an issue about safety - and anyway the available data does nothing to suggest that a trans woman with a GRC is a danger to women.

So there's a group in society who need some group of people to ridicule, humiliate and abuse. They even publicly admit that the last group of people that is available to them is people with ginger hair - thereby admitting they are frustrated by a need - they have to have some group of people to abuse and to punish.

A group of people, including so-called academics crafted a narrative to justify their needs and satisfy their lust to ridicule.

Our job in society is to protect all people against ritual humiliation - that's why we have human rights laws that seek to protect everyone.

 

[CXRAndy]