spen666
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Germany have 4 World Cups. Just because East Germany wasn't invited, doesn't make West Germany lesser than Germany.
Further - Germany have been in the final 8 times.
Brazil, Italy and Germany are the most successful countries with 13 titles and 12 second places between them.
In contrast England has 1 win, 2 semi finals and 8 quarter finals.
Brazil's form is astonishing - out of 22 world cups they have come in the top 4 for half of them, and won a quarter of them. They have only been eliminated in the round of 16 twice.
Germany won it in 2014
Germany were never successful prior to that
