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Rusty Nails

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Let's not pretend Twitter was wholesome before Musk bought it. Before all the ideological moderators were sacked Twitter banned anyone who said a man couldn't be a woman but allowed hundreds of pro paedophilia accounts and accounts with MAP Minor Attracted Person profiles.

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Here's the nonces complaining about the post Musk Twitter clean up.

https://prostasia.org/blog/twitters-pedo-populism-setback-prevention/#:~:text=In October 2020, Twitter released,a step back into history.

Musk needs to do whatever he can to keep it off the platform but it's obvious that pornographic image creation was going to be the first port of call for a lot of AI users, just as it was when photography or cinematography was invented. It will be the case with all AI software and all platforms that allow image posting.

Please don't troll another thread with another skirmish in the trans war.
 

CXRAndy

Pharaoh
If you say so. Shows that allowing people to make and print abusive and quasi pornographic pictures of women pays. Is there no end to his greed for money.

Have you raised your outrage of the other Ai platforms .

When you hear back from the others saying they will do everything for free, cause you want it that way, I'll listen to your argument.
 

Rusty Nails

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Have you raised your outrage of the other Ai platforms .

When you hear back from the others saying they will do everything for free, cause you want it that way, I'll listen to your argument.

I can't recall a thread talking about pandering to pervs on other AI platforms.

If news comes up about other platforms that are offering the same opportunities for abusive pervs and paedos I will.

Your last sentence makes no sense, but you carry on being you.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Please don't troll another thread with another skirmish in the trans war.

Please don't be disingenuous and pretend pre Musk Twitter bias isn't relevant to the current discussion. Before Musk it wasn't some porn free idyll; it was just more subject to the ideological whims of the human moderators and what they felt should be tolerated. Unlikely that they would be banning any more AI porn images than Musk is.
 
Im not supportive.

I've not seen, or would know how to do such a thing.

From what I understand you can tell Grok to create a virtual digital image, with the head of someone famous. Is that right?

So this is not OK right, from the Mirror?

I just want to make sure we are all in agreement

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Tell me. Do the words in bold reveal what you searched Twitter for?

New search or one you'd saved?

Yes, I'm happy to condemn Twitter users searching for Naked Trump.
 

Rusty Nails

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Please don't be disingenuous and pretend pre Musk Twitter bias isn't relevant to the current discussion. Before Musk it wasn't some porn free idyll; it was just more subject to the ideological whims of the human moderators and what they felt should be tolerated. Unlikely that they would be banning any more AI porn images than Musk is.

And don't be disingenuous and deny you are just looking for an opportunity to introduce the trans debate.

My main issues about X under Musk is that it was promoted by him as a way to extend free speech and it has clearly turned out not to be. It is his personal toy and he decides whose speech is free and whose he supports.

The issue I have with Musk and porn is the way his AI Grok enables and encourages pervs and potential sexual abusers to indulge their fantasies.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
And don't be disingenuous and deny you are just looking for an opportunity to introduce the trans debate.
I didn't start any of the trans/gender threads either on naca or on the main site. When the gender threat has been dormant I don't think I've ever once resurrected it. I could fill that thread with batsh#t gender stuff every day of the week if I was minded to. Maybe the trans obsession is yours.

The issue I have with Musk and porn is the way his AI Grok enables and encourages pervs and potential sexual abusers to indulge their fantasies.
No other AI image creation software does this now or will do in the future? I would like him to take steps to stop it and take steps to stop it being posted on X but it's the inevitable evolution of what some people will do with new technology. Before AI image generators they used Photoshop. Before Photoshop they cut out photos from magazines and stuck different heads on them. Before that they made pornographic drawings. It certainly is selective outrage.
 

Rusty Nails

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I think the outrage on this thread is selective and based entirely on hatred of Musk rather than any real desire to protect women from the harm caused by fake AI pornographic images.

It is a thread about X. X is owned by Musk and used by him as his own personal megaphone.

Your sentence makes no sense at all in that the criticism of Grok AI is that it allows perverts to further their fantasies. Criticism of Musk on this thread is entirely about the harm his product causes and he cannot be divorced from his own product.

Despite your frequent comments about the issue of bias I believe you are as biased as anyone else on this forum, with one or two notable exceptions.
 

Rusty Nails

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I didn't start any of the trans/gender threads either on naca or on the main site. When the gender threat has been dormant I don't think I've ever once resurrected it. I could fill that thread with batsh#t gender stuff every day of the week if I was minded to. Maybe the trans obsession is yours.
And I never said you did start them, but it is probably fair to say you have contributed as much as, if not more than anyone else. I'll leave others to decide where the obsession lies.
No other AI image creation software does this now or will do in the future? I would like him to take steps to stop it and take steps to stop it being posted on X but it's the inevitable evolution of what some people will do with new technology. Before AI image generators they used Photoshop. Before Photoshop they cut out photos from magazines and stuck different heads on them. Before that they made pornographic drawings. It certainly is selective outrage.
When examples come up of other AI platforms that allows this so obviously as Grok, and they are discussed here, then perhaps I will comment. Of course you will never stop people indulging their strange fantasies on photographs or drawings but the question on here is how easy that is made and how long it lasts.
 
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AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Apart from Mudsticks and Claude (both now gone) I'm the only woman on here. I'm obviously more invested in an issue and a thread that affects me far more than it does you for example. Odd that you think I shouldn't be.

The X outrage is selective because it's not a problem unique to X, nor Grok. You only have to look at the number of deep fake celebrity videos to know that so let's not pretend it's a new problem.

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