Yet more Tory sleaze….

[qigong chimp]

Is it? Sitting at our keyboards we can too easily say this, but it is a meaningless, and possibly incorrect, statement unless there is supplementary information about what elements could have been more effective, the criteria for measuring effectivenessand and, most importantly, specifically how that effectiveness could be improved.

Thanks for that, Sir Humphrey.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Thanks for that, Sir Humphrey.

An unfairly maligned character who invariably got it right.

Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Is it? Sitting at our keyboards we can too easily say this, but it is a meaningless, and possibly incorrect, statement unless there is supplementary information about what elements could have been more effective, the criteria for measuring effectivenessand and, most importantly, specifically how that effectiveness could be improved.

They did their best under the circumstances?

 

[Rusty Nails]

They did their best under the circumstances?

Do you think so? Because that is not what I suggested, or believe.

 

[BoldonLad]

You'd expect the Govt of the day to have contingency plans in place for foreseeable public health crises.

I didn’t say otherwise, I said, whatever plans/contingencies were in place, they can always be improved, especially, with the benefit of hindsight. I also didn’t say that the pandemic was well handled.

 

[BoldonLad]

Is it? Sitting at our keyboards we can too easily say this, but it is a meaningless, and possibly incorrect, statement unless there is supplementary information about what elements could have been more effective, the criteria for measuring effectivenessand and, most importantly, specifically how that effectiveness could be improved.

That is describing HOW it could be better, but, almost any solution or plan can typically be improved as more information becomes available. I wasn’t discussing HOW, I was merely saying it could almost certainly be improved.

 

[Rusty Nails]

That is describing HOW it could be better, but, almost any solution or plan can typically be improved as more information becomes available. I wasn’t discussing HOW, I was merely saying it could almost certainly be improved.

And it could also almost certainly be made worse.

Now how could it have been improved or worsened?

I know, let's set up an inquiry to find out.

Even though everybody and his brother down the pub already knows how.

 

[newfhouse]

Anyone here up for it?


View: https://twitter.com/greghands/status/1720051370626072813?s=61&t=IaNHN0MzKohAo3Ktl0DsFQ

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Anyone here up for it?


View: https://twitter.com/greghands/status/1720051370626072813?s=61&t=IaNHN0MzKohAo3Ktl0DsFQ

 

[Unkraut]

I didn’t say otherwise, I said, whatever plans/contingencies were in place, they can always be improved, especially, with the benefit of hindsight. I also didn’t say that the pandemic was well handled.

I read somewhere here near the beginning of the pandemic that the British had contingency plans and supplies in place that might well have been the best in the world, except it was all scrapped to 'save money' under the austerity regime in about 2016.

Similarly over here there had been a staffed standing organisation dedicated to respond quickly in the event of a pandemic, but having existed for years with no pandemic it too was scrapped to 'save money'. Something Conservatives the world over have in common. It took time to get it up and running again, something you don't have much of when a virus is spreading across the population.

It's easy to be critical with hindsight and there isn't an unlimited amount of money for these things, but you wonder if the various govts might have found savings somewhere else.

 

[BoldonLad]

And it could also almost certainly be made worse.

Now how could it have been improved or worsened?

I know, let's set up an inquiry to find out.

Even though everybody and his brother down the pub already knows how.

I admire your optimism

 

[newfhouse]

Yet another Tory criminal found guilty in court.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-stewart-racial-hostility-activist-court-told

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

It looks like Jake Berry has some scores to settle after losing the Tory party chair job.

 

[newfhouse]

Yet another Tory criminal found guilty in court.

View attachment 4901

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-stewart-racial-hostility-activist-court-told

View: https://twitter.com/barristersecret/status/1721265976019157449?s=61&t=IaNHN0MzKohAo3Ktl0DsFQ

 

[newfhouse]

Thread.


View: https://twitter.com/danneidle/status/1721481365311439263?s=61&t=IaNHN0MzKohAo3Ktl0DsFQ


Guardian link for non-Twitterers.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-admits-involvement-with-vip-lane-ppe-company