Arthur Labinjo-Hughes: A life cut short by cruelty

[Bromptonaut]

Rational yes, though I feel the tariffs for this type of crime should be higher.

I do have issue with the sentence he gave the mother, he had room to impose the maximum of 14 years, he gave 8.

Mrs Justice Lambert is a she...

The Mother has mitigating circumstances.

 

[winjim]

Absolutely, we all have a vent threshold, I get pretty annoyed with child murderers, and some people get pretty pissed off when they can't complete their meal deal in Tesco Metro.

Different things arouse different emotional responses in different people. Which is partly why I think we should separate criminal sentencing from emotion as far as possible.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Different things arouse different emotional responses in different people. Which is partly why I think we should separate criminal sentencing from emotion as far as possible.

That.

Exactly.

 

[Cirrus]

Mrs Justice Lambert is a she...

The Mother has mitigating circumstances.

My apologies to Mrs Justice Lambert.

 

[Deleted member 28]

"The government have got Bradford social services in their sights."

For a start this fukcing piss shitt bastard government should be held to account for stripping billions of £££ out of the very services that are there to protect children and other vulnerable people.

No kids ever abused under the Labour government then?

Are you so bitter everything in life that goes wrong is down to the Tories, get a grip man.

 

[newfhouse]

No kids ever abused under the Labour government then?

Are you so bitter everything in life that goes wrong is down to the Tories, get a grip man.

Stop inventing things that nobody has said and instead consider a simple question. Has the effectiveness of local authority social services departments been enhanced or diminished by funding reductions in the last ten years?

(We don’t know for sure that resource limitations are definitely to blame in any of the recent high profile murder cases, but it does look like a pattern is emerging, doesn’t it?)

 

[Deleted member 28]

Stop inventing things that nobody has said and instead consider a simple question. Has the effectiveness of local authority social services departments been enhanced or diminished by funding reductions in the last ten years?

(We don’t know for sure that resource limitations are definitely to blame in any of the recent high profile murder cases, but it does like a pattern is emerging, doesn’t it?)

How do I know, did it improve during the last Labour tenure?

Simple question.

 

[Deleted member 28]

"The government have got Bradford social services in their sights."

For a start this fukcing piss shitt bastard government should be held to account for stripping billions of £££ out of the very services that are there to protect children and other vulnerable people.

How about the 'fukcing piss shitt bastard person' that does this in the first place?
Should they not be held account for any of this?

 

[Deleted member 28]

Absolutely, we all have a vent threshold, I get pretty annoyed with child murderers, and some people get pretty pissed off when they can't complete their meal deal in Tesco Metro.

Don't start me on the unavailability of flavoured water!

 

[newfhouse]

How do I know, did it improve during the last Labour tenure?

Simple question.

Simple answer - yes.

How should you know? Well, you could start by gathering information before forming opinions.

 

[newfhouse]

How about the 'fukcing piss shitt bastard person' that does this in the first place?
Should they not be held account for any of this?

The murderer was given a life sentence today.

 

[cookiemonster]

How do I know, did it improve during the last Labour tenure?

Simple question.

Yes it did.

Not massively but a lot better than now.

 

[Deleted member 28]

Yes it did.

Not massively but a lot better than now.

How would that be measured then?

 

[Deleted member 28]

Stop inventing things that nobody has said and instead consider a simple question. Has the effectiveness of local authority social services departments been enhanced or diminished by funding reductions in the last ten years?

(We don’t know for sure that resource limitations are definitely to blame in any of the recent high profile murder cases, but it does look like a pattern is emerging, doesn’t it?)

I'm not inventing anything, but to me the first reaction to have regarding this is to blame anyone other than the parents is bollox.
Would the same comment have been made if Labour were in power?

 

[newfhouse]

I'm not inventing anything

Are you sure?

but to me the first reaction to have regarding this is to blame anyone other than the parents

Something that nobody has said.

It is possible for the abuser and murderer to be entirely responsible for the crime but still believe that opportunities were missed that could have prevented it. It is then worth looking at reasons for those failures - resources, policies, competence and so on.