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MrGrumpy

Regular
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...c-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs

Increased fire risk, or extreme proprietary repair costs?
Y own a Y?

Car insurance has risen a lot , case in point , wife’s renewal is over £200 more . Sons had gone from £500 odd to £800 odd!

However if that’s the cost to insure a Tesla , bloody hell . You just wouldn’t run one !
 

icowden

Squire
However if that’s the cost to insure a Tesla , bloody hell . You just wouldn’t run one !
Just did a test. For someone my age (49) with a long no-claims history, lowest insurance on compare the market for a Y is now £827 with black box and a compulsory excess of £550 and voluntary of £300 (£887 without). Last time I checked about 3 months ago it was £580 with a *much* lower excess. If I whack off the voluntary excess it goes up to £886 with Admiral if you have a black box fitted. £939 without.
 

MrGrumpy

Regular
Just did a test. For someone my age (49) with a long no-claims history, lowest insurance on compare the market for a Y is now £827 with black box and a compulsory excess of £550 and voluntary of £300 (£887 without). Last time I checked about 3 months ago it was £580 with a *much* lower excess. If I whack off the voluntary excess it goes up to £886 with Admiral if you have a black box fitted. £939 without.

Geezo ! Ironically we have been looking at leccy cars and a Y is in budget but I’m scared off with that . Might just stick to a petrol/hybrid for now !
 

Fab Foodie

Legendary Member
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...c-vehicle-owners-face-soaring-insurance-costs

Increased fire risk, or extreme proprietary repair costs?
Y own a Y?

If that stays current it will kill the leckky car market. My neighbour has just got a Tesla - will try find out what he's paying insurance-wise compared to his VW T-Cross when I next see him.

But yes, insurance has risen dramatically. Cars are complex and varied so repair is expensive.
My VW Transporter is a base vehicle with the basic black matt-plastic front grille/bumper assembly, but built within it there's a radar anti-crash sensor which is £2k alone to replace even though the bumper is the cheapest stock part....I bloody hope the sensor works!

What I've also learnt from the Transporter fraternity is that a very large number of people keep them running in very good nick over 200k miles. The basic running gear is strong and adaptable and mostly easy to fix for the average enthusiast. I can also foresee a change in ownership mentality of cars such that there will be a growing market of garages/specialists for more basic vehicles that exhibit decent longevity and are readily fixable. People will value longer car ownership and therefore reliability and fixability over bling, 0-60 times and other nonsense.
If the insurance industry reflected the fixability costs of vehicles/brands that might also shift ownership towards simple and reliable and lower premiums.
 

icowden

Squire
If that stays current it will kill the leckky car market. My neighbour has just got a Tesla - will try find out what he's paying insurance-wise compared to his VW T-Cross when I next see him.
To be fair, it's mostly Tesla that has the issue. That's why I don't have one - my company removed it from the company car list as it was just too expensive to insure even with a compulsory excess of £1000
 
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Deleted member 159

Guest
The issue is, manufacturers have long since stopped keeping vast inventory of spare parts. Only in USA can you get parts going back decades, but again newer models aren't as well catered for, as they once were.

Better become friends with the breakers yards.
 
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Deleted member 159

Guest
I'll need check our car insurance, but from memory our Model S is far far cheaper to insure than the model 3. I suspect because we have 6 drivers on it, youngest being 23
 

icowden

Squire
The issue is, manufacturers have long since stopped keeping vast inventory of spare parts. Only in USA can you get parts going back decades, but again newer models aren't as well catered for, as they once were.
It's also that the Tesla is so technologically advanced and the parts so complex to replace. It often isn't as simple as getting a new bumper for example.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-tesla-cars-get-totaled-insurance-repair-costs-2023-6?r=US&IR=T
 

Pale Rider

Veteran
My insurance was due to rise to over £500 for the first time.

It didn't because I correctly changed from hard charging hack doing quite a few miles to doddery old retired person hardly going anywhere.

My older retired bank manager brother also reported an increase - he's over 70 now which may be counting against him.
 

icowden

Squire
It’s shows also short sightedness IMO . Not very environmental really is it , if they get written off more often ?
I agree. It does seem to be something that Tesla haven't thought about. Possibly a little bit of arrogance - after all the car is supposed to be clever enough to avoid crashes...

They just haven't considered that other people are not driving clever cars and there is no prevention for other drivers driving into your Tesla.
 

icowden

Squire
It is that arrogance that increases a guilty verdict. However I would blame the media too, hype much being the norm.
There's a lot of different things going on. Autopilot isn't FSD but a lot of people can't or don't distinguish between the two. Add to that that Musk has repeatedly seemingly overstated the abilities of FSD and Autopilot and made a lot of predictions that haven't come to pass yet. But it does come down to the fact that the Driver was not paying attention and over relying on Autopilot. Most people buying a Tesla would know the difference between that and FSD - and definitely this guy as he researched Tesla extensively.
 
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