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[briantrumpet]

If that is true, then I need a better explanation of what is happening rather than just being told it is silent. I can imagine a toddler falling in quietly. I can imagine a kid who can swim banging their head and knocking themselves out. I find it hard to imagine a decent swimmer suddenly drowning in a swimming pool.

I'll see if I can find you a better one.

 

[PurplePenguin]

This seems consistent with my expectations

Drowning causes​

Drowning doesn’t always look like you’d expect. Scenes of people thrashing in the water and screaming for help in the movies don’t typically happen. Instead, drowning usually occurs quickly and quietly. Most people drown within two minutes. Accidental drowning can affect anyone. The causes can vary based on age and other factors.

Infants often drown in bathtubs, sinks and bath seats. They can also drown in buckets, wells and decorative ponds. Babies can drown in as little as 1 to 2 inches of water. Most infant drowning deaths happen within five minutes of an adult taking their eyes off them.

Toddlers and children frequently drown in swimming pools. They may gain access to a pool when a gate has been left open, or there’s no fence at all. Even children who’ve taken swimming lessons may jump in and drown.

Adults tend to drown in natural bodies of water, like lakes, rivers and oceans. They may underestimate the danger or overestimate their ability to swim in these waters. Drowning may also occur after an injury, like diving in shallow water and hitting their heads.

 

[C R]

If that is true, then I need a better explanation of what is happening rather than just being told it is silent. I can imagine a toddler falling in quietly. I can imagine a kid who can swim banging their head and knocking themselves out. I find it hard to imagine a decent swimmer suddenly drowning in a swimming pool.

You can't shout under the water even if you're conscious, and you don't splash unless you can bring your arms over the surface of the water.

 

[icowden]

Worcester will be competing with Tehran in the temperatures league this week

I see your Worcester and raise you Walton on Thames

 

[Dorset Boy]

The UK record of 40.3 degrees must be in danger if these forecasted temperatures are correct.

 

[icowden]

The UK record of 40.3 degrees must be in danger if these forecasted temperatures are correct.

Red warning just issued

 

[briantrumpet]

This seems consistent with my expectations

Here's a handy graphic.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Here's a handy graphic.

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I still don't really get the point of the message. I think both of my kids have, at some point, jumped into a swimming pool expecting me to catch them, but completely mistimed it, so they end up in a mess, and yes it looks a bit like the graphic above. It's also not something they do twice. What I was surprised by was the idea that a competent swimmer was suddenly, and silently, drowning in a swimming pool, and a brief bit of research tells me that it is unlikely to happen.

Maybe there are parents who don't watch their kids in the water and just wait for a scream, and that's what the campaign is trying to prevent.

 

[briantrumpet]

I still don't really get the point of the message. I think both of my kids have, at some point, jumped into a swimming pool expecting me to catch them, but completely mistimed it, so they end up in a mess, and yes it looks a bit like the graphic above. It's also not something they do twice. What I was surprised by was the idea that a competent swimmer was suddenly, and silently, drowning in a swimming pool, and a brief bit of research tells me that it is unlikely to happen.

Maybe there are parents who don't watch their kids in the water and just wait for a scream, and that's what the campaign is trying to prevent.

Maybe you are missing the bit there that says 50% of children drown within sight of their parents. Clearly that's not you, if you are fully aware of all the risks and signs of drowning.

 

[AndyRM]

WTAF has this thread become?

Explaining drowning?

Quality stuff.

 

[Psamathe]

I'm no expert but used to Scuba dive back in the days where training was extensive. One of the tests we needed to pass was to lie in the swimming pool surface (facing up) and float, no moving arms or legs, just lie there floating for a few minutes (test required 1 minute but my club insisted on a lot longer). And not deliberate but even in the pool it was not "calm" water with others doing other training around you, jumping in, etc. And even for a lean male it's actually not too hard.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Maybe you are missing the bit there that says 50% of children drown within sight of their parents. Clearly that's not you, if you are fully aware of all the risks and signs of drowning.

I'm not missing it. An unsupervised toddler and a swimming pool is a very dangerous combination. I'm just trying to educate myself on whether there are other glaring risks that I'm missing.