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briantrumpet
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Blowed if I know.
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Blowed if I know.
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briantrumpet
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I guess I'd better shelve any plans to travel to the US, even if I wanted to, given my social media commentary on Trump. (FTR, actually, I've never wanted to go there anyway.) The scientist is actually probably lucky to have been turned back, and not found himself incarcerated.
I think Germany might already be giving travel advisories on travelling to the US, and at won't be long before several others join them. Tourism has already taken quite a hit year-on-year, and this sort of thing will only accelerate the trend.
I think Germany might already be giving travel advisories on travelling to the US, and at won't be long before several others join them. Tourism has already taken quite a hit year-on-year, and this sort of thing will only accelerate the trend.
Pinno718
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Sorry can’t seem to embed the YT link. This an interesting one from the Lincoln Project. ‘Don’t Look Up’
View: https://youtu.be/Ijj5TgYeJQo?si=glBXe4eyZ4FLAdp9
Have a proper gander.
You found us them!
secretsqirrel
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Yeah Pinno.
Took a while to get through security for NCAP but finally made it. 😁
Just finding it all a bit strange…….
Pinno718
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I've already been served an ASBO.
midlandsgrimpeur
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Surprised it took them this long!
midlandsgrimpeur
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The sad thing is, at its best, the USA really is the most astonishing country to travel around. Something like the Grand Canyon is utterly mind blowing in its scale and beauty, seeing it in pictures can only ever give you an approximation of how breathtaking it is.
HMS_Dave
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It is a beautiful country with lots of scenic diversity.
secretsqirrel
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C R
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That was in the mothership, though, wasn't it. I think we are less uptight in here.
First Aspect
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Read it now. It is starting to remind me of multiple rapist cases, where conviction does not rely on evidence beyond reasonable doubt of any one event, but instead a cumulative balance of probabilities.
In my view, with Letby, the approach of seeking reasonable doubt on each case in isolation, and extrapolating this across all of the cases, is just as incorrect.
It is also interesting that Letby's barrister has cherry picked only 7 out of the 17 cases. One would need to read and understand the full report to understand why he's being less triumphant about the other 10.
And no one has explained why the statistical spikes followed her shift patterns.
It is also incorrect to present the shortcomings of the hospital and Letby's guilt as a choice of one or the other. After all, would you expect an incompetent or malicious nurse to be able to operate as long in a well run unit?
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briantrumpet
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OK, so maybe not one or the other, but is there reasonable doubt? That's all it takes.
He wasn't the only one who cherry-picked... have you seen the bit about about the prosecution not including the deaths when she wasn't present, or the paediatricians who concluded that all the deaths when she was on duty could be explained by 'natural causes'?
As I say, I'm not invested one way or the other, but I'm still inclined to agree with the ones who are not convinced that the verdict is safe, given their expertise.
First Aspect
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What's reasonable? If you have 10 50:50 cases, there's a 1 in 1000 chance, no?
Ian H
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The doubt being expressed is about the reliability of the 'expert' witnesses. It is concerning when experts disagree about basic evidence. However, I'm not going to presume to judge one way or the other.
First Aspect
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Experts disagreeing is pretty standard. The oddity with this case was only one side put anyone up.
